Thread: Bears confident Hardin will make smooth transition

I blame Jerry Angelo for losing Danieal Manning. Only it is actually true the reason for why we lost him.

Originally Posted by soulman

If Hardin can play up to his potential we'll forget all about Manning.

I want him to play like Mike Brown 2.0. ;-)

Just stay healthy, Brandon.

Originally Posted by Dagan81

I think Hoke is a solid secondary coach. I don't know where people get off saying that all of our coaches suck because they don't.

Gil Byrd actually coaches the Safeties but he was a very good NFL player and he's also a very good secondary coach along with Hoke. Those guys have to be given some credit for player development at Safety because the majority of our mid round draft picks at Safety have started in their rookie years. Coaching isn't a problem back there but stability is.

Letting Manning go and signing Meriweather to replace him was just one more nail in JA's coffin. Manning would have been pricey to keep but sometimes you need to spend that money in order to keep that stability. To JA it seems that Safeties and OG's were disposable positions you could get anyone to play and if they got too expensive you just replaced them. I'm betting Phil Emery has a different point of view on that.

Originally Posted by soulman

Gil Byrd actually coaches the Safeties but he was a very good NFL player and he's also a very good secondary coach along with Hoke. Those guys have to be given some credit for player development at Safety because the majority of our mid round draft picks at Safety have started in their rookie years. Coaching isn't a problem back there but stability is.

Letting Manning go and signing Meriweather to replace him was just one more nail in JA's coffin. Manning would have been pricey to keep but sometimes you need to spend that money in order to keep that stability. To JA it seems that Safeties and OG's were disposable positions you could get anyone to play and if they got too expensive you just replaced them. I'm betting Phil Emery has a different point of view on that.

I know that you're going to want to kill me for saying this, but Jerry Angelo was a cheapskate who didn't like to pay his athletes who weren't just absolute superstar stud players. True, he went and got Cutler and Peppers and signed them to blockbuster contracts, but look what else he did: he totally wigged out on the deal to possibly get Jermon Bushrod to come play LT for the Bears, a move that would have saved us a lot of sacks. We lost Danieal Manning because Angelo didn't want to pay him. He went out and, instead of signing premium talent on the free agent market like the Harvey Dahls, the Tyson Clabo's, the Justin Blalocks, etc., we opted to go after Roy Williams, Brandon Meriweather, Sam Hurd, etc. Essentially, Angelo went dumpster diving for either cheap talent last year despite having a lot of cap space at his disposal to use, or he overspent on washed-up, has-been players.

Angelo was cheap, but George McCaskey wasn't. He fired Angelo for his fuck ups and hired the far more proactive general manager in Phil Emery. Emery has spent money in the appropriate places this season, made key trades (Marshall, anyone?), and had an excellent draft according to most credible draft experts. The Bears are, at least on paper, light years ahead of where they were last year, and that's because of the change in the culture in the front at both the top (George McCaskey) and at the GM level (Emery).

Originally Posted by Zelezo Vlk

I think Hurd was supposed to be a ST guy through and through. I was surprised he was on the field last year for the catch I saw him make.

Still, that didn't look too good for Angelo signing Hurd. He looked like total shit for doing that, you know.

Originally Posted by Dagan81

I know that you're going to want to kill me for saying this, but Jerry Angelo was a cheapskate who didn't like to pay his athletes who weren't just absolute superstar stud players. True, he went and got Cutler and Peppers and signed them to blockbuster contracts, but look what else he did: he totally wigged out on the deal to possibly get Jermon Bushrod to come play LT for the Bears, a move that would have saved us a lot of sacks. We lost Danieal Manning because Angelo didn't want to pay him. He went out and, instead of signing premium talent on the free agent market like the Harvey Dahls, the Tyson Clabo's, the Justin Blalocks, etc., we opted to go after Roy Williams, Brandon Meriweather, Sam Hurd, etc. Essentially, Angelo went dumpster diving for either cheap talent last year despite having a lot of cap space at his disposal to use, or he overspent on washed-up, has-been players.

Angelo was cheap, but George McCaskey wasn't. He fired Angelo for his fuck ups and hired the far more proactive general manager in Phil Emery. Emery has spent money in the appropriate places this season, made key trades (Marshall, anyone?), and had an excellent draft according to most credible draft experts. The Bears are, at least on paper, light years ahead of where they were last year, and that's because of the change in the culture in the front at both the top (George McCaskey) and at the GM level (Emery).

And why would I have a problem with any of this? I don't disagree at all. In fact it's just about what I've been saying only using different words.

Originally Posted by soulman

And why would I have a problem with any of this? I don't disagree at all. In fact it's just about what I've been saying only using different words.

Well, it used to be that anytime I made reference to the Bears being cheap, you dogged me over it. That's what I was preparing myself for, soul.