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Originally Posted by
GermansbombedPH
looks like
CWill
Louis
Garza
Spencer
Carimi
Webb
EWill
Brown
Rachal
looks better than what we had last year just because Webb isn't starting anymore, Ohmyfail is gone and Carimi is back
That sounds like a winner to me, dude. I'll take most any LT who can halfway decently block over Webb any day of the week. I'm also glad that OMG is gone.
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I'm just happy that we have the luxury of an offseason to play with the pieces we have and find the right places for our five best OL to succeed. I've been pretty adamant all along in the fact that CWill should have never been moved from LT -- NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER!!!! Even thought he was far and away our biggest impact OL at LG last season, I am more than willing to at least give him a shot to unseat Webb not only because our options on the inside are vastly deeper and better than at T, but because I believe Chris has what it takes to at the very least improve the position.
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Originally Posted by
lklrlolnlilklsox
I'm just happy that we have the luxury of an offseason to play with the pieces we have and find the right places for our five best OL to succeed. I've been pretty adamant all along in the fact that CWill should have never been moved from LT -- NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER!!!! Even thought he was far and away our biggest impact OL at LG last season, I am more than willing to at least give him a shot to unseat Webb not only because our options on the inside are vastly deeper and better than at T, but because I believe Chris has what it takes to at the very least improve the position.
Sox, do you think that it's going to take a bit to regain the footwork from playing on heels in LG to on the toes for LT?
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Nothing ventured nothing gained and when it comes time to talk extension I'm sure he's not gonna want to take less than he's been making. As an OG on this team that would be a distinct possibility.
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Originally Posted by
short faced bear
Sox, do you think that it's going to take a bit to regain the footwork from playing on heels in LG to on the toes for LT?
Meh, it's not like it's unfamiliar or foreign territory to him. Like any position, you get better and smoother with reps, but I doubt he will be tripping over his own feet in his kick-slides.
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I'm beginning to wonder how much of Jay Cutler's calling bullshit against the coaching staff and the front office over the offensive is wearing on them. After all, there appears to be evidence indicating that, indeed, there will be a competition for the LT position held between Webb and Chris Williams. Williams is the better talent of the two and is far more intelligent than Webb; he did attend Vanderbilt University, after all, so he isn't your stereotypical dumb jock. Webb is such a dunce that it makes his thinking impaired in the realm of making any solid progress in the realm of picking up complicated blitz schemes.
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Originally Posted by
short faced bear
Sox, do you think that it's going to take a bit to regain the footwork from playing on heels in LG to on the toes for LT?
I know sox answered this question shorty but I'll chip in that CWill played at least 3 years of LT in college so I doubt he's forgotten how it's done. Muscle memory comes back pretty quick with some reps and the mental part follows. Guys who haven't hit a golf ball for awhile can go out and hit a bucket of balls to get their rhythm down and then hit the tee and build from there.
I play both bass guitar and six string and the approach is very different both physically and mentally. While it takes a few hours of practice to get back your dexterity if you haven't played one or the other for awhile it's not like you need to learn it all over again.
Like sox says, a few days of reps at LT to get his rhythm back and his head into it and then it's just rinse and repeat from that point on. Practice, practice, practice until it becomes second nature. At least he'd still be playing the same side of the line. I'd think a switch to RT would cause more transitional problems than to left. JMHO.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81
I'm beginning to wonder how much of Jay Cutler's calling bullshit against the coaching staff and the front office over the offensive is wearing on them. After all, there appears to be evidence indicating that, indeed, there will be a competition for the LT position held between Webb and Chris Williams. Williams is the better talent of the two and is far more intelligent than Webb; he did attend Vanderbilt University, after all, so he isn't your stereotypical dumb jock. Webb is such a dunce that it makes his thinking impaired in the realm of making any solid progress in the realm of picking up complicated blitz schemes.
Well to be fair to Webb Dags (and I'm not plugging Webb by any means) but throwing a kid into the frey into a new position with a short prep time and saying he's going to really improve just based on negative experience has never rang true for me. The best thing to do for Webb I believe is to take a step back (being a backup) and working in a less trial by fire- less stress environment to up his football awareness/I.Q, technique, and footwork. Then see where he would fit best.
I would liken it to a fighter who is slow to learn a new technique. You up his confidence by feeding him to lesser opposition to build up confidence then introduce him later on to the gold glove fighters.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81
I'm beginning to wonder how much of Jay Cutler's calling bullshit against the coaching staff and the front office over the offensive is wearing on them. After all, there appears to be evidence indicating that, indeed, there will be a competition for the LT position held between Webb and Chris Williams. Williams is the better talent of the two and is far more intelligent than Webb; he did attend Vanderbilt University, after all, so he isn't your stereotypical dumb jock. Webb is such a dunce that it makes his thinking impaired in the realm of making any solid progress in the realm of picking up complicated blitz schemes.
At the risk of offending, which is not my intention I assure you, going to college doesn't make you more intelligent it's just means in the way such things are measured that you have more formal education. That said I would agree that CWill probably got a far better education at Commodore Vanderbilt U than Webb got at at West Bumfuck A&M. But education and inherent intelligence are two completely different things.
The really important factor here is really their respective level of intelligence which is an ability to reason and learn and there I would say your 100% correct. Insofar as football intelligence is concerned Webb seems a little slow on the uptake and I would think CWill far less so. There had to be reason why one of them got drafted in the first round and the other the seventh since they were both LT's in college and those guys are always in demand.
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Originally Posted by
lklrlolnlilklsox
I'm just happy that we have the luxury of an offseason to play with the pieces we have and find the right places for our five best OL to succeed. I've been pretty adamant all along in the fact that CWill should have never been moved from LT -- NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER!!!! Even thought he was far and away our biggest impact OL at LG last season, I am more than willing to at least give him a shot to unseat Webb not only because our options on the inside are vastly deeper and better than at T, but because I believe Chris has what it takes to at the very least improve the position.
You and Dagan81 both. I sympathize a LOT with that, I think CWill has a bright future in the NFL as a starting LT (if he can beat the injuries). HOWEVER, do you guys remember OMG at LG? (2010 I think) He was playing matador with the bull being any DT would could fake and the path to Cutler was mighty short though that hole. At LT, OMG was only bad. The backup LG was also bad. I completely understand putting CWill at LG when he returned from injury (given OMG's only bad LT play rather than horrid). Cutler is the Franchise guy. You cannot have massive DTs getting free runs at him. ... my opinion.