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Originally Posted by
soulman 
I don't think so. Now when Bowen states that he understands a players reason for wanting long term security.
"I don’t blame them. If you are a veteran player with proven production, get as much money as you can before the league tells you to get lost. The rest of your teammates will understand that this is a business and the offseason is the time to talk money."
As for trusting if the Good Lord to provide I guess you've never heard the phrase; "In God we Trust, all others pay cash".
I understand the concept of bleeding the team for all it's worth when it comes to talking contracts and money, but at the same time, I think that Forte should tear out a page from Wes Welker's book and just sign the damn FT tender while he's negotiating for his long-term deal. It is, as Matt Bowen stated, the professional thing to do.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81 I understand the concept of bleeding the team for all it's worth when it comes to talking contracts and money, but at the same time, I think that Forte should tear out a page from Wes Welker's book and just sign the damn FT tender while he's negotiating for his long-term deal. It is, as Matt Bowen stated, the professional thing to do.
Well since he said he would and now seems to have forgotten he said that I guess quite a few us feel the same way you do Dags.
I'm getting to that age where a lifetime warranty just doesn't mean as much to me anymore as an afternoon nap. 
Honey Badger Don't Care. Honey Badger Don't Give a Shit.
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I think it's easier for Welker to just sign it since he's been around a while longer and has had a few decent paydays. Forte hasn't had 1 yet and w/how people toss rb's out he might not get one long term deal if he just signs it and sucks it up. Will he get a lot of money ya, but he doesn't get the long term security either; and not near as much as he should get.
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True, not huge but decent. His rookie deal was just a mini salary deal but he got $18mil/5 in 2007 so he's ahead of the game compared to Forte. But he's also a WR with a longer average life span than a RB so he'll get more just on that basis alone.
I'm getting to that age where a lifetime warranty just doesn't mean as much to me anymore as an afternoon nap. Honey Badger Don't Care. Honey Badger Don't Give a Shit.
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Given all the "noise" Forte has made so far this offseason...it makes sense to go for the holdout to see if he can spook the Bears into given in.
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noise? what a few tweets and an interview? This is hardly CJ last year or Marshall in Den. Both sides have been pretty quite considering how many public year+ long contract negotiations go.
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Originally Posted by
Riczaj01 noise? what a few tweets and an interview? This is hardly CJ last year or Marshall in Den. Both sides have been pretty quite considering how many public year+ long contract negotiations go.
Ricster...you have to understand that we're in 2012. These days players make "noise" via tweets or Facebook comments. Things aren't like they used to be.
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I'd call sending out a few heated Tweets a rather loud, noisy proposition. I have to agree with BBPB on that one. While it's not on par with what Chris Johnson and apparently Brandon Marshall did in their contract years, it's noise nonetheless, something that the Bears' PR department probably will want to do without.
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2 tweets, one of which he retracted is still hardly "noise" and Marshall's antics to get out of Denver were hardly back in the good ol' days. He was acting out in practices and openly talking about wanting traded. THAT is loud. Stating you will not play for a team is loud, which has happened. Going to the media w/specifics of the deal is loud and why it doesn't work is loud.
Stating that you're pissed your team has again gone ahead and signed yet another RB behind you to a long term deal before taking care of you is not loud. Saying you're not going to be around much if you don't get a long term deal is not loud, it's not quite, but loud compared to normal cantacorous negotiations is normally far worse then what the Bears/Forte have been. And let's not forget that the Bears have come out also and talked about the deal; but they were also not "loud" about it.
But that is just difference of opinion.
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Originally Posted by
Riczaj01 2 tweets, one of which he retracted is still hardly "noise" and Marshall's antics to get out of Denver were hardly back in the good ol' days. He was acting out in practices and openly talking about wanting traded. THAT is loud. Stating you will not play for a team is loud, which has happened. Going to the media w/specifics of the deal is loud and why it doesn't work is loud.
Stating that you're pissed your team has again gone ahead and signed yet another RB behind you to a long term deal before taking care of you is not loud. Saying you're not going to be around much if you don't get a long term deal is not loud, it's not quite, but loud compared to normal cantacorous negotiations is normally far worse then what the Bears/Forte have been. And let's not forget that the Bears have come out also and talked about the deal; but they were also not "loud" about it.
But that is just difference of opinion.
Different strokes for different folks, Ric. lol. 
I think there are varying degrees of noise, as you said, but one cannot deny that what Forte has done is noisy, though not as bad as Brandon Marshall.
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