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    Cutler: "Offense too rigid under Martz"

    Cutler saying the obvious:


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    By Michael C. Wright | ESPNChicago.com

    Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler still considers former offensive coordinator Mike Martz "one of the brightest minds in the game," but admitted his system may have been behind the times, while adding the coach's inflexibility played a role in the unit's struggles.


    Cutler said the players bought into Martz's system Wednesday on ESPN 1000's "Waddle & Silvy Show," but "there comes a point where you have to give a little bit, and you've got to take a look at the whole offense, what we're good at, and what we're bad at.


    "You have to be able to change a little bit, and I think that's kind of where we messed up a little bit," Cutler said. "There wasn't flexibility as I think we needed."


    In January, Martz and the organization mutually decided to part ways over "philosophical differences" on the heels of a pair of mediocre seasons in which the offense ranked 24th in 2011 and 30th in 2010, and the coach shortly after retired.
    Throughout his tenure with the Bears, Martz came under fire for play calling, which at times appeared to be too heavily geared toward passing. In addition his offense had protection issues, which were exacerbated by a passing game heavily reliant on seven-step drops. After a 7-3 start last season, the club lost five of its last six after injuries to Cutler and running back Matt Forte.


    Cutler called Martz unique in "being able to script up some plays and draw some stuff in the ground," adding "there's no one like Mike."

    "He can get guys open better than anyone I've really ever been around. He's very, very, very, smart," Cutler said.
    Martz's system has been criticized-- despite the success it achieved during the coach's tenure with the St. Louis Rams from 1999 to 2005 -- for not evolving with the NFL's defenses in recent years. In addition, Martz wasn't working with the same talent he deployed during the Rams' "Greatest Show on Turf" years.


    "They had Orlando Pace (at left tackle). They had some dudes up front where you were able to take seven-step drops," Cutler said. "I don't think defenses were as evolved as they are now. Safeties were different. Not every team had a defensive end that was going to be able to sack you if you keep taking seven-step drops. It was a different time, different game. Defenses I think since have kind of caught up to that."


    Before joining the Bears prior to the 2010 season, Martz hadn't directed a top-10 offense since 2004 in St. Louis.
    "We gave it a shot," Cutler said. "I still respect Mike."
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    the end of the article basically explains why martz didnt fit our team and ja did nothing to help the situation

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    Martz couldn't adapt and took a no-win job. He wore out his welcome and tarnished his "genius" reputation at his last few stints. I thought he was a very good tactician but no "genius".
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    Jay says it all when he says the lack of flexibility. A refusal to accept reality and adapt an outmoded system to modern defenses and allow for the talent at you disposal was his major downfall and it's been that way ever since his days in St. Louis.

    He's that mad genius sitting there in his little corner of the world tinkering with improving a toaster oven of an offense when everyone else had moved on to microwaves.
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    I think Cutler explained Martz's system better here:


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    People can say what they want about Cutler, but he's a very smart man. He understands the way the game was when Martz was on the cutting edge and knows how different it is today. Also, I liked seeing Cutler give Martz some praise despite what happened. This guy is finally starting to say all the right things pubicly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear View Post
    This guy is finally starting to say all the right things pubicly.
    Uh.....what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Bear View Post
    Uh.....what?

    Sorry man, I have real problem with that word. lol

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    Martz is called a genius for being the coach during "The Greatest Show on Turf" era. But truthfully, he simply had an obscene amount of talent. Warner, Faulk, Bruce, Holt, Hakim, Proehl -- and an offensive line anchored by Orlando Pace in his prime.

    Compare that with our Bears talent under Martz. No oline. A defensive back converted into our #1 WR (Hester), and WR's who couldn't run routes or hold onto passes. A QB running for his life. Forte was great, but even there he's no Marshall Faulk (no disrespect to Forte). And Martz in total denial, trying to run a crazy offense that required 7 step drops and max time for the QB to throw. It was utter madness.

    With the talent Martz had in St. Louis, he could have run any passing scheme and it would have been great IMHO.
    Last edited by JustAnotherBearsFan99; 06-08-2012 at 09:42 PM.
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    I'm looking forward to seeing these guys coach. Hope they're good.


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    Vermeil said a few times that Martz needed to be "anchored" he had to be told to run the ball more. Something that I'm pretty sure Lovie told him to do more of. Coryell used Winslow at TE, for Martz not to be able to use that concept on TE on his other teams- esp. since he learned his principal structure from Coryell is plain stupid.
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