Thread: Cutler Stand By His Oline Concerns....................

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

Cutler should be worried. Ya part of that was scheme last year, and you saw the improvement when Cutler threw a fit but there were still breakdowns after that. We should have enough talent to at least be average though, in the right scheme.

Cuter was disliked before coming to Chicago though, he was a bit of a punk in Denver and how it was viewed by the media when he got what McDaniels wanted(him out) didn't help. He seems to have matured, and gotten a few good PR people since then though, he's loosened up a little, and winning in Chi has helped also.

That was all sniveling media member bullshit . Some pud who never made the team gets a degree, gets hired, gets access to the big time, and starts thinking he's as important as the players. Then he asks retarded questions ( which proves he doesn't really understand the game ), doesn't get his ass kissed, the baby in him gets all butthurt, and the let's fvck this guy garbage starts up. Birds of a feather stick together. Doesn't change one fact though : they never made the team.

Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear

So what do you suggest? How did McMahon make his O-lineman love him?

One of the things was that the lineman would head butt each other after a score or a big play. McMahon started doing it with them and given how fragile he could be he freaked everybody out. McMahon and Butler were the only non-lineman invited to the weekly dinner party the Bruise Brothers had every week. I think that was so they could hang him with the bill though. LOL

Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear

I started watching the Bears in '84. I kind of like McMahon but don't really share the fondness so many Bears fans have for him. I thought he was too much of a clown at times.

Yeah but we won a SB behind him and led the league in scoring that year so the offense was cooking right along with the defense. McMahon knew how to win. That was his greatest gift. His greatest weakness was his body. He just couldn't stay uninjured although Charles Martin had a lot to do with that.

I don't see how anyone could possibly give any shit to Cutler about his comments.

Did they NOT see what happened last season?

As for saying he's throwing his teammates under the bus (and the devastating potential for injury because... well, they're the offensive line) is asinine because they couldn't do much worse, short of standing up at the snap and gesturing to the defense to have at him.

If Cutler were to toss out glad-happy sentiments about the line, that would have the transparency of glass and he'd lose credibility. It's evident Cutler takes his job seriously and isn't going to feed kool-aid to the fans about something we already know is a concern.

If any of the linemen were to take offense, I'd have serious concerns for their sense of reality.

At this point, I don't give a shit about feelings or reputation or respect. You want someone to consider you as a professional, you'd better come with proof of production. You'd better show you have a body of work to stand on before you start taking someone to task for saying you're not performing at a professional level. If you can't, you need to shut your hole and get to work.

As for us fans, media shills writing about (both for and against) the Bears are going to write anything they think will get people to read thier tripe. That's how it works. The trick is remembering your opinion matters more to yourself than some beat reporter's, whose only concern is that his opinion might get him free drinks and possibly laid.

I guess what made the 85 team special was that we had a great (yes great) offense to go along with the great defense. Often it was that OFFENSE that got us a lead early, so the the defense could tee off on the opposing offense. McMahon was a really good QB, and a great field general. He audibled out of a lot of the plays - and made them work. The offense was 2nd in scoring that year in the NFL.

We were a different team without McMahon in there. Miami wouldn't have happened IMHO if Jim had been in that game. They blame the defense, but it's a synergy in games like that. Steve Fuller just wasn't Jim. The team believed in McMahon. He was magic out there and they fed off that.

McMahon's QB rating was 7th in the NFL that year, ahead of John Elway, Joe Theisman & Danny White, and not far behind Dan Marino & Dan Fouts. So he wasn't exactly a slouch that year.

Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear

Nothing can ever change the fact that McMahon was part of that team Soul, but as far as I see it, an unprecedented defense and a tremendous running game had more to do with that glorious season than McMahon. The '00 Ravens remind me so much of that unstoppable '85 tsunami. I mean just look at the devastation that our defense reigned downed in the playoffs and the SB.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I guess what made the 85 team special was that we had a great (yes great) offense to go along with the great defense. Often it was that OFFENSE that got us a lead early, so the the defense could tee off on the opposing offense. McMahon was a really good QB, and a great field general. He audibled out of a lot of the plays - and made them work. The offense was 2nd in scoring that year in the NFL.

We were a different team without McMahon in there. Miami wouldn't have happened IMHO if Jim had been in that game. They blame the defense, but it's a synergy in games like that. Steve Fuller just wasn't Jim. The team believed in McMahon. He was magic out there and they fed off that.

McMahon's QB rating was 7th in the NFL that year, ahead of John Elway, Joe Theisman & Danny White, and not far behind Dan Marino & Dan Fouts. So he wasn't exactly a slouch that year.

And not having him was what cost us at least one more and maybe two more SB wins BBPB. The 1986 defense was statistically better than the 1985 defense and we still had a great running game BBPB but we lost the engineer of the offense. McMahon was one hell of a smart QB and he was the offensive glue. Without him they just did function the same.

Case in point. Our defense did dominate the the 1986 SB game but offensively it was McMahon's passing that propelled the offense. NE keyed on Walter defensively and had him bottled up all game long. So McMahon just took what they gave him and passed them to death.

He may not have had Cutler's arm but he was a winner just the same. Up until Cutler he was the best QB we'd had in 50 years.