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    Five Things to Watch for During Vet Mini-Camp This Week........

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    5 things to watch at Bears minicamp

    June, 11, 2012 Jun 11
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    By Michael C. Wright | ESPNChicago.com




    Chicago Bears minicamp begins Tuesday with a 2 1/2 hour workout and subsequent sessions Wednesday and Thursday for the club’s final work until it reports to training camp on July 26.

    Here’s a quick look at five things to keep an eye on at minicamp:

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    Scott Boehm/Getty ImagesJ'Marcus Webb led the NFL with 15 offensive penalties last season.



    1. J’Marcus Webb vs. Chris Williams at LT: Both players continue to alternate taking repetitions with the starters, and it’s likely the team won’t make a final determination on clear-cut No. 1 at the position until sometime in the preseason.

    Because of collective bargaining agreement rules concerning contact during offseason sessions, it’s difficult to gauge either player’s performance essentially against air. Observers can only focus on at this point is how quickly the player explodes out of his stance, whether they’re correctly carrying out assignments and not false starting.

    Webb led the NFL with 15 offensive penalties last season (resulting in eight stalled drives), and Williams missed seven games with a wrist injury.

    Offensive coordinator Mike Tice always has considered Webb and Williams to be the Bears’ most athletic offensive linemen. But both players have struggled with consistency in the past.


    Two years ago the Bears opened the season with Williams as the starting left tackle only to move him inside to guard; a move that, in part, came as a result of circumstance considering the team needed him to replace center Roberto Garza -- then a guard -- who missed time with a knee injury. Williams played so well the team made the move permanent.

    Originally drafted in the first round to be the left tackle of the future, Williams -- entering a contract year -- is definitely capable of unseating incumbent Webb, who according to Pro Football Focus, ranked as the worst full-time starter at left tackle in the NFL in 2011 after surrendering 38 quarterback pressures.

    2. Return of Gabe Carimi at RT: The team will continue to exercise care in easing Carimi back into action as he rehabilitates from a season-ending injury to his right knee that resulted in two surgeries. So don’t view it as a setback if Carimi sits out of practices at some point during minicamp.
    When Carimi is sidelined, look for the Bears to work rookies James Brown and A.J. Green in his place along with Mansfield Wrotto.

    Considering training camp is more than a month away, it makes sense to continue to ease Carimi back into the mix. Carimi says he feels “explosive” now; so no need to blow up his positive rehabilitation progress by rushing him back too soon.

    3. Cornerback competition: Free-agent acquisition Kelvin Hayden finally made his way onto the field during the club’s last session of organized team activities, and he performed well, showing the beginnings of what should be a hotly-contested fight for the starting cornerback spot opposite Charles Tillman.

    Most of the offseason competition at the spot has been between Tim Jennings -- a 15-game starter in 2011 -- and free-agent acquisition Jonathan Wilhite, and sources have called it a neck-and-neck battle so far. So adding Hayden into the equation will complicate things for sure, but in good way.

    It’s also worth mentioning the team drafted two corners in Isaiah Frey and Greg McCoy, who haven’t yet flashed, but might be on the verge as they gain confidence and familiarity with the defensive system.

    “I know some of the ability that some of the guys can bring to the team,” Jennings said. “We’ve upgraded in some of the positions, not only at corner, but I think at safety and d-line. It’s just gonna raise our level of competition and give us a chance to improve. It’s gonna be really competitive. Overall we’ve made great improvement in the secondary, whether I’m out there or not.”

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    Getty ImagesMichael Bush will get the majority of the work with the first team during minicamp with Matt Forte absent.

    4. Forte-less backfield: Forte hasn’t signed his franchise tender, so technically he’s not under contract and not subject to fines of up to $60,000 for unexcused absences on all three days of minicamp. Sure, Forte could sign an injury waiver, report, and participate. But that’s not happening. Like quarterback Jay Cutler, we’d be “shocked” if Forte attended.

    So with Forte expected to miss, look for free-agent acquisition Michael Bush to receive the bulk of the reps along with Kahlil Bell and second-year man Armando Allen, who at OTAs has resembled a poor man’s Darren Sproles. Bush definitely isn’t as explosive as Forte, and he’s not as capable a receiver out of the backfield. But Cutler has lauded Bush for consistency and “always (being) in the right place.”

    Realistically, Bell is probably as good a player as Bush given that he flashes speed, power and elusiveness. But it’s unlikely he’ll be given a legitimate shot to fill the No. 2 role behind Forte because of the four-year, $14 million deal the club gave Bush.

    5. The Devin Hester package: Hester didn’t attend the last OTA session, but in workouts so far the team has definitely shown some plays designed specifically for the speedy receiver; plays that should get the ball to him in space and let him gain a good chunk of the yardage after the catch.

    So all the raving about Hester really isn’t some contrived campaign to boost his confidence. The club has significantly simplified the system, making it much easier for Hester to play fast without overthinking.

    The new passing game involves a lot more straight up route running than reading and reacting like the club did in Mike Martz’s system over the last two years.

    “That’s gonna definitely help; a lot less thinking,” Cutler said. “Hot routes and breaking stuff off (like what the team did under Martz) isn’t really something we’re gonna be a part of. So it’s gonna be a lot easier for those guys. I think Devin’s gonna have a big year for us.”
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    I'm actually more interested in seeing Allen then I am Bell. He showed some real signs of explosiveness, and between bell and allen I thought we were okay IF Forte had been signed. It will be interesting if we sacrafice Bell or Allen to keep an extra receiver.

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    I think the thing that will probably capture the most interest will be the battle for LT. Most years the guy who started last season would be the incumbent and the new guy would need to unseat him but I have a feeling this competition is wide open. Webb doesn't get any special consideration for having been last years starter and given his inconsistency he shouldn't be getting any either. This one is truly a "may the best man win" battle.

    After that I think the next two most interesting will be Jennings and Hayden at LCB and Roach and Hayes at SLB. The fact that the Bears brought in veteran talent at both positions indicates they see room for improvement. But no matter who eventually wins the starting roles we'll have excellent dept behind them.
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    Got to say I'm proud that one of our ND boys is on the roster. Armando Allen is a gem. Hopefully the Bears are going to see that soon. I'm a big fan of Bell too. He's become an NFL player in a short period of time.

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    Got to say I'm proud that one of our ND boys is on the roster. Armando Allen is a gem. Hopefully the Bears are going to see that soon. I'm a big fan of Bell too. He's become an NFL player in a short period of time.
    Allen is in a tough spot but he looked pretty good on a few runs last year. His best bet is to shine on ST. I don't know if he has PS eligibility or not and keeping a 4th RB is usually only done if the guy is a ST demon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Allen is in a tough spot but he looked pretty good on a few runs last year. His best bet is to shine on ST. I don't know if he has PS eligibility or not and keeping a 4th RB is usually only done if the guy is a ST demon.
    It is a crowded backfield.

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    Because of collective bargaining agreement rules concerning contact during offseason sessions, it’s difficult to gauge either player’s performance essentially against air.
    I'm not sure you can tell much about the LT's until the pads are on and there's a starter-quality defender to go against.


    Williams played so well the team made the move permanent.
    He did play GREAT at LG. He did not look good at LT. If they do move C.Williams to LT, I'm hoping it's because he's greatly improved at LT, rather than Webb stinking the place up. And I'm really tired of the sports media guys parroting that Pro Football Focus quote that Webb was the worst LT in the NFL. He had games where he was bad. He had games where he looked very solid against some of the best DE's in the NFL. Regardless, I'm getting tired of re-reading the quote (hope Webb is too & will come out like an angry Bear to prove the world wrong).

    Cutler, regarding the Devin Hester Package:

    “That’s gonna definitely help; a lot less thinking,” Cutler said.
    Hester is at his best when he doesn't have to think, but just "react" in the moment with his incredible athleticism. He's one of the best I've ever seen when he does this. But, he looks very average when he "thinks"......we saw this when they tried to tinker with his return style. He went from a Hall of Fame looking return guy, to Mr Average. He was just overthinking rather than just letting loose the beast.

    I'm thinking Hester will be night-and-day better when they get him the ball in space and just let the beast take over. It may be electrifying this year to watch.
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    The thing that's hurting Webb almost as much as the sacks are the 15 penalties and over half of those were drive ending penalties. Those were all mental errors that no amount of practice will cure. He needs to focus himself out there. He's playing with the big boys now and he can't just dominate them physically like he did in college.

    I'd really like to see CWill take that spot for a couple of reasons beyond the obvious one of providing better protection now. First it all but assures that they'll extend CWill's contract. If he's just now coming into his own as an NFL lineman I don't want to lose him in FA. Second it takes the immediate pressure off Webb and he can continue to build up his game as a swing tackle. If the kid does have what it takes but just needs some time to mature into the position that should allow him to do it. If he can eventually become a very good LT you don't want to lose him either.

    So if there's a way to keep both maybe that's the way we do it knowing that if Webb does catch fire in another year or two we can always move CWill back to LG. Both of these guys are big athletic lineman and if all it's gonna take is a little more coaching and some patience then maybe we can save both of their careers this way or at least find out if either or both of them are worth saving.
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    CWill v Webb, high pick potential v low round potential. Neither have proven to be the long term option yet. At least CWill has proven he can play guard. Gotta think Webb is going to give more b/c he's in a must win situation.

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    Both of them may be. If CWill remains at OG will they try to extend his contract or will he test FA? I really hope they keep him because I think he's just now working out as planned. I'd still like him to take over. They'll keep Webb as a swing tackle and try to continue coaching him up. Maybe in another year or two he'll be ready. I just think he isn't now.
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