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    Have the Bears built up back end of the roster?


    I had the great opportunity this past week to host a few shows with former NFL scout, coach, and executive Pat Kirwin on SiriusXM NFL Radio. It was a fact finding mission identifying which NFL teams have done the best job building up their roster to survive injury during the season. The Bears made our list with criteria diagnosed with Pat’s years of experience and a template most NFL General Manager’s follow for success.

    Keep in mind the 2011 Bears season spiraled out of control due to quarterback Jay Cutler’s injury at the most critical position on the field. I encourage CSNChicago.com readers to check out Pat Kirwin’s article at CBSSports.com. Pat breaks down his favorite roster builders this season. I briefly summarized the criteria below with comments how the Bears have addressed each:

    1. Have backup quarterback who can go 2-2 if they had to play a month of the season.

    The Bears have done just that with the signing of Jason Campbell who comes with wins and quality starting experience.

    2. Have a second running back who can be a 1,000 yard back or at minimum generate 75 yards a week as runner or receiver.

    The signing of talented runner Michael Bush will pay huge dividends for the Bears in 2012. Phil Emery’s work may not be done if Matt Forte elects not to report for training camp. If Bush or Khalil Bell were to go down in pre-season with an injury, it could have disastrous consequences. Emery, most likely, has done his homework on experienced free agent RB’s if one needs to be signed before camp. It will be done quickly, only if Forte withholds his services.

    3. Have third wide receiver who can play if a starter goes down, who must average 4-6 receptions a week as an X (weak side receiver) or Z (strong side receiver).

    The Bears may be featuring their most talented group of receivers in quite some time. Brandon Marshall can play X or Z and so can Earl Bennett. If either goes down to injury, rookie Alshon Jeffery would become the X and either of the aforementioned, moves to Z. Devin Hester becomes the slot in this scenario, plus the Bears also signed Devin Thomas who is a Z if they elect to keep Bennett in the slot where he has thrived in three WR sets. Chicago now has incredible depth at wideout.

    4. Have second TE who’s a legitimate threat as a blocker and receiver.

    Finally, the Bears will be utilizing the talent at this position. Kellen Davis is very athletic at 6’7, 267 lbs. Second year tight end Kyle Adams looks the part, but inexperienced. Rookie draft pick Evan Rodriguez is more of a FB/H-back type of player, not a true tight end, but is definitely a threat to catch the football.

    5. Have two experienced backup offensive linemen. A swing-tackle for either side or an experienced inside player for guard or center positions.

    The Bears have it all on the offensive line. Chicago is very versatile up front. Just think of Chris Williams, if right tackle Gabe Carimi or left tackle J'Marcus Webb were to go down, Williams has started at both positions, along with experience playing at left guard. Chris Spencer can play guard or center along with Roberto Garza. The offseason signing of Chilo Richal brings even more playing experience on the offensive line to go with snaps logged last year at guard and tackle by Lance Louis. Chicago has tremendous flexibility up front.

    6. Have third defensive tackle that could play a whole game if a starter went down.

    Between Stephen Paea, Matt Toeaina, Israel Idonije, Henry Melton, and recently signed veterans like Chauncey Davis, and DeMario Pressley, there will be nice competition during camp. The depth is there.

    7. Have a pass-rush specialist.

    Julius Peppers is the guy, but a pass rusher opposite could reap the rewards of a ton of slide protection to Peppers side. The Bears believe first-round draft pick Shea McClellin is the guy. Also, Corey Wooten needs to come on strong because if both fail, Izzy will be kicking back up to defensive end.

    8. Have a fourth cornerback if either starter at right, left, or nickel corner were to go down with an injury.

    Charles Tillman, Tim Jennings and DJ Moore have all been solid. Free agent Kelvin Hayden comes with a ton of experience during his days as a Colt in the exact same defense as the Bears. If Hayden performs even remotely as good as Jennings has, the Bears hit pay dirt again.

    9. Have a third safety.

    This position has been the Achilles' heel for the Bears for quite some time. Next on stage is rookie Brandin Hardin if Major Wright or Chris Conte get injured or falter. Love Craig Steltz’s heart, but he is limited. This group has to grow up quick.

    10. Have four core special teams players be able to fill in if starter goes down on offense or defense during a game.

    Thomas, Hayden, linebacker Geno Hayes and Rachal all fit the bill as does Davis.

    The Bears have met all criteria, but need No. 4 and No. 9 to come around and finally develop. The defense just needs to be the typical Bears defense. The special teams need to be who they always have been. The offensive accountability Mike Tice is shaping needs to take hold during the end of training camp and the first three weeks of the season. If this happens, the Bears can sustain and remain consistent through injury.


    again more positive about our beloved Bears.

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    This might be the first article I've seen that was positive about the Bears OL. Jackie, see it's not all bad!!!
    1) I understand the need for a backup qb, but if he has to see substantial time you're team is screwed. So i'm more indifferent about this one
    2) agreed on this. Bush is going to be a huge deal for this team. He and Forte are going to do monster things for the team this year. and Bell/Allen will be a good change of pace or backup if one gets hurt.
    3) I didn't know it was possible to completely overhaul a position in 1yr, but the team did it in world class order. It's near a crime that it was so ignored by the previous regime
    4) Don't we still have Speath? This shouldn't be that big of an issue. He showed enough last year in the pass game, maybe not a threat, but good enough. Not everyone is NE and needs to run 2 TE sets.
    5) If any of these needs to be a show they can come around it's this one. CWill and Carimi need to show they can stay healthy. Webb needs to step up and Lance needs to take another step. If that happens we should be fine. But if anyone gets injured or Webb and Louis don't take that next step we are going to struggle against elite teams.
    6) I'm not as high on this position as it seems I should be, but I think they have a chance to shine if Shea/Izzy prove to be disruptive this year and Julius still takes double tripple teams. it's still a real solid group; we could be a lot worse off.
    7) Might have 2. Never was sold on Wooten, guess we get to see what he's made of this year.
    8) this might be the most solid our CB's have looked since the SB year
    9) this is the OL of the D side, got some potential, but a lot to prove.
    10) Our ST's were really solidified this offseason in FA. No worries here at all.
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    I think that's mostly right except #6. Need more DT depth. Agree w/you Ric on #5-any injuries and the unit will be severely tested.
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    We need the safeties to step up and also to stay healthy.


    9. Have a third safety.

    This position has been the Achilles' heel for the Bears for quite some time. Next on stage is rookie Brandin Hardin if Major Wright or Chris Conte get injured or falter. Love Craig Steltz’s heart, but he is limited. This group has to grow up quick.
    Trestman - Kromer - Tucker - DeCamillis

    I'm looking forward to seeing these guys coach. Hope they're good.


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    "5) If any of these needs to be a show they can come around it's this one. CWill and Carimi need to show they can stay healthy. Webb needs to step up and Lance needs to take another step. If that happens we should be fine. But if anyone gets injured or Webb and Louis don't take that next step we are going to struggle against elite teams."

    I didnt say it ... he did.

    Actually if TICE can put together an OL that is not in constant rotation/injured ...

    this could be the start of somthing,

    these fucks have been together long enough to earn their pay.

    It's about time they fuckin jell. Who knows ? This could be it.

    I'm hopin.

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    5. Have two experienced backup offensive linemen. A swing-tackle for either side or an experienced inside player for guard or center positions.

    The Bears have it all on the offensive line. Chicago is very versatile up front. Just think of Chris Williams, if right tackle Gabe Carimi or left tackle J'Marcus Webb were to go down, Williams has started at both positions, along with experience playing at left guard. Chris Spencer can play guard or center along with Roberto Garza. The offseason signing of Chilo Richal brings even more playing experience on the offensive line to go with snaps logged last year at guard and tackle by Lance Louis. Chicago has tremendous flexibility up front.
    Hell yeah, we have a bunch of experienced backup linemen. As a matter of fact, that's all we have.

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