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    I felt bad for Hanie. He was like a deer in the headlights - a babe in the wood. He had no clue. He could make some decent throws, but the problems were that he wasn't accurate and he didn't have any pass protection. Part of the pass protection, I think, goes back to how shifty Cutler is in the pocket and how he is capable of eluding would be tacklers and scrambling for yardage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    I felt bad for Hanie. He was like a deer in the headlights - a babe in the wood. He had no clue. He could make some decent throws, but the problems were that he wasn't accurate and he didn't have any pass protection. Part of the pass protection, I think, goes back to how shifty Cutler is in the pocket and how he is capable of eluding would be tacklers and scrambling for yardage.
    That's a good point. Hanie got rattled and totally lost his confidence. Once that happened he was doomed and so were the Bears. He has some talent. We've seen it (not last year but the year before). But you're right, he definitely had that "deer in the headlights" look.
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    I just about stroked out over some of those Hanie plays. It's enough to give you flashbacks....waking up in cold sweats & screaming in the middle of the night.
    the interception vs the chiefs was when i was just ready to die. the spin around and throw to the 300 pound defensive lineman. ala grossman to taylor lol or was it the seahawks? I cant remember. that was too hard of a time

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    the interception vs the chiefs was when i was just ready to die. the spin around and throw to the 300 pound defensive lineman. ala grossman to taylor lol or was it the seahawks? I cant remember. that was too hard of a time
    He threw the pick-6 int to the Green Bay Packers nose tackle B.J. Raji in the playoff game in 2010. In the same game he also threw a pic to Sam Shields.

    My favorite brainless play by Hanie was when he couldn't even spike a football properly in last year's Raider's game to stop the clock. Hanie stepped back and THEN spiked the ball - and was promptly called for intentional grounding. In 50+ years of watching NFL football (or footbaall at ANY level, including high school), I've never seen a QB not know how to spike a football to kill the clock.

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    I have no love for Hanie. Much was made of his TDs in that NFC title game with GB, but what I can't forget is how he buried the Bears with those 2 picks. The picks completely negated anything good he did in that game. Even though Cutler was awful, I don't hang too much blame on him. That offense was subpar. The talent simply wasn't there for him to succeed like it is now. So Cutler really needs to step up this year.

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    I have watched Hanie up here and from the little bits I have seen of him he looks much better then he ever did in Chicago. A bad QB coach and a even worst OC sure didn't help the kid.

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    I've always said that we have not had a good QB nor WR coach. I still think that Grossman had the potential to be special until we got done with him. I don't remember which game it was, but one of his games he just could do nothing wrong. He looked like the second coming of Montana and I remembered saying to myself that with the right coaching he could be special.

    He certainly didn't prove me right in WA, but don't know if it's because he sucks or we sent him out as irreparable damaged goods. The kid had the talent, but was very inconsistent and at the end of his ride, his consistency got way better, but in a bad way :-)

    Hopefully we have fixed the problem and are able to actually bring along young QBs with talent. That is a VERY important component to have in an organization.

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    I have watched Hanie up here and from the little bits I have seen of him he looks much better then he ever did in Chicago. A bad QB coach and a even worst OC sure didn't help the kid.
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    Catches and drops in the NFC North

    Here's a follow up article I found on the 4 letter network:
    Like Bennett, but he's not explosive enough to be the #1 target, which is why Forte has led the team in receptions. I see Bennett having another solid year and his #'s not taking a hit, or really having a huge jump either. He's got to much competition now at his posession.


    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears

    July, 7, 2012Jul 7
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    By Kevin Seifert | ESPNChicago.com


    Some of you might already be aware of the cool feature running this week over at Pro Football Focus: A three-year study of a performance on a number of levels, including drops and their frequency relative to opportunities.

    NFC North players were ranked at the top and bottom of this analysis, so let's take this fine Saturday morning to run through most of them. Remember, drops are an unofficial and subjective statistic that sometimes varies significantly from outlet to outlet. The good thing, as always, is that all players in this study were subjected to the same standard.

    THE GOOD

    Earl Bennett
    Statistic:
    Lowest drop rate (3.15 percent) of any NFL receiver
    Comment: Bennett dropped four passes in 127 opportunities, partially explaining why quarterback Jay Cutler has so much confidence in him.

    Michael Jenkins
    Statistic:
    Had 12th-lowest drop rate (5.88).
    Comment: He had eight drops in 136 opportunities. Jenkins isn't a game-breaker, but is the definition of a reliable possession receiver.

    THE BAD

    Brandon Marshall
    Statistic:
    No. 1 overall in raw drops (35).
    Comment: Marshall also had the third-most opportunities over that stretch, 303. That made his drop rate 11.55, the 10th-worst mark among receivers.

    Brandon Pettigrew
    Statistic:
    Tied for the most drops (24) and highest drop rate (11.5) of any NFL tight end.
    Comment: Pettigrew saw the fifth-most opportunities (208) over the time period. Most everyone would agree he has dropped a few too many.

    Jermichael Finley
    Statistic:
    Fourth-highest drop rate (10.9) among tight ends.
    Comment: Finley has vowed to clean up that part of his game.

    James Jones
    Statistic:
    Second-highest drop rate (14.39) among all NFL receivers.
    Comment: In total, he dropped 20 of 139 opportunities. His difficulties in 2009 have been well-documented.

    Donald Driver
    Statistic:
    Seventh-most drops (22) and seventh-highest drop rate (12.3).
    Comment: At best, Driver will be the Packers' No. 3 or No. 4 receiver this season.

    Devin Hester
    Statistic:
    Had 15th-highest drop rate at 10.3.
    Comment: Overall, Hester dropped 14 of 136 opportunities. If he gets more opportunities this season, as promised, well …

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