Thread: Do you think Rex Grossman would have succeeded here if...

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

Nope. It wasn't the WR's that were the problem it was the OL. That pansy needed the Dallas OL from the 90's SB to protect him; and I'm not sure they could have. He is a guy that needs his WR's to bail him out b/c of his poor decisions, but at the root, the WR's were not going to carry him, the OL has to.
Unfortunately, there is no OL good enough to save him b/c every team knew that if you even hinted and pressure he pissed himself and chucked the ball away. He was also to small to see over the line, and lacked mobility(after the inj's) to get out and find the passing lanes.

He was just a found out and not capable enough to improve. Happens to most qb's in the NFL, most have the talent at least in a few areas, but once they get found out they are doomed to fail. KO was the same way, capable, but not complete enough or capable of improving enough to be a legit starter.

I agree with all of that. Regarding Orton, I felt like he gave 100% all the time, but he didn't have the talent. Orton wasn't afraid of anything (he took a lot of hits too). But Rex had more raw talent, but he just fell apart mentally. He was playing scared and chucked balls all over the place.

Orton would be a good backup QB, but will never be a great starter. Rex? Man, even with his raw talent, how could you ever trust him - even as a backup? You couldn't.

Originally Posted by short faced bear

I saw Jaw's take on top qb's and one of the criteria was his QB % vs. the blitz. Another was movement inside the pocket. Many qb's look good behind a good line and time to throw. Many look great, but when adversity hits (or they get hit) the mechanics, presence of mind, and leadership mindset (sitting at end of bench not talking or looking at photos) goes away.

Wrex is a quality backup imo.

I could have sworn that Rex used to have mobility, and his first 2 years looked WAY different than he did in 06

i thought once he got over the injuries, he couldnt get over the thought that he might get seriously injured again

Originally Posted by Aenir

i thought once he got over the injuries, he couldnt get over the thought that he might get seriously injured again

I totally agree with that. It was a "head thing" that took a guy with a lot of talent (I'll always believe Rex had the raw talent) and ruined him. Mentally he just couldn't function under pressure anymore. Sometimes you'd be able to see a camera shot of his eyes after being abused in a game, and he just looked scared witless. Fear.

Cutler on the other hand just looks major pissed when he's getting beaten bloody out there. You half expect him to kick Webb's balls into the 400 section (maybe even over the jumbotron screen).

If you go back and look at rex before the big knee injury, he was a different guy with the way he moved. and could actually run a bit. but just in the pocket he was more confident

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I totally agree with that. It was a "head thing" that took a guy with a lot of talent (I'll always believe Rex had the raw talent) and ruined him. Mentally he just couldn't function under pressure anymore. Sometimes you'd be able to see a camera shot of his eyes after being abused in a game, and he just looked scared witless. Fear.

Cutler on the other hand just looks major pissed when he's getting beaten bloody out there. You half expect him to kick Webb's balls into the 400 section (maybe even over the jumbotron screen).

i thought we started seeing in rex in WSH last year when he went on that mini roll, like he almost had the swagger back, and then got popped in the mouth to remind him... oh shit, I got hurt doing this crap!

lol, No offense to cutler, I dont think he could kick him that far, maybe pick him up and throw him... and in keeping with his arm strength, Land Webb on top of Martz! with a note that says tell mike I said F*ck him!