And that is where your idea fails BBPB, Tice has already said he's going to get the ball into Forte Marshal and Hesters hands(His playmakers). They aren't going to have him out there on every down, but he will be out there plenty; and he's going to be time sharing w/Bennett; both playing on the inside. Marshal/Jefferies will be starting outside.
This looks like a new team at WR.
We cant even begin to factor in Marshall and Alshon.
I dont think any of us even knows how to set these guys up on the field.
Can Marshall be traded around at split end and flanker?
Bennett always seemed like a pure split end.
We know that Hester was pretty much slot.
Alshon ... I dont know where he fits in yet.
We drafted a few stumpy guys in the draft at ...
FB and TE ... I forgot their names.
The situation is evolving into airball in the NFL.
Are we ahead of the curve?
At WR I like to hope so.
Ric, unless Jeffreys is an out of the gate great player, he's probably going to run some wrong routes, and like most WRs, have trouble adjusting to the speed of the NFL and get outmanned from time to time. Bennett may be the number 3, but he's gonna get a lot more passes than you think.
I wonder how much input Cutler will get as to playing time at WR. I have nothing to base this on, other than a gut feeling, but I think Cutler is going to have a boatload of "say" now that Mad Mike is gone. That could mean that the guys who get the most use at WR will be guys he trusts (who have a chemistry with Cutler).
If that's the case, then I don't think you'll see a ton of playing time with the rookie - yet. And Hester? I've heard the Hester hype every year. Here's what I think about THAT annual hype. I think Lovie just wants teams to "hear" the hype and feel they have to overly respect Hester, like he's some kind of "super weapon" that they have to game plan for. When in reality, he got what, 300+ receiving yards last year, and dropped passes?
I'll believe the Hester hype when it translates into Hester production. I don't think Cutler feels Hester is "The Guy" as hyped by the coaches each year. It's a coaching smoke and mirrors thing. Cutler clearly trusts and values Bennett - bigtime. And if so, and Cutler DOES have some say this year, then Bennett will get a lot of playing time and targets. Hester? Not so much.
Brian Urlacher
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The Voice of Reason and Reality has entered the thread. Please get that common sense out of here man.Originally Posted by Henry Burris
Once again with the Bennett s*** and once again with my answer. If BM is double teamed and AJ or Hester is being cover strong, on 2d or 3d and long, Cutlers is just going to throw the ball away or is he going to throw it to the one receiver that is getting covered man to man. Yes he might throw it to his outlet receiver Forte or a TE but if he wants to move it downfield then he's going to throw it to a WR.
He's going to throw to Marshal w/three men JJ. He has that kind of confidence in him; it's the confidence everyone thought he'd have in Bennett b/c they played together in college and going into his 4th year he's gotten less and less looks.
I agree JJ they will all get looks and spread the ball, but only 1 WR is going to get the ball 90-100 times and that's Marshal; it's why he's here and why he is paid what he is paid. But Bennett isn't going to get more looks b/c we drafted a guy in the 2nd and brought in a high dollar FA; that's bassackwards. He's the primary loser in this WR reorg. If the team was as confident in him as everyone on this board we don't take a WR high in the draft and bring in so many FA WR's.
And I'm not saying he sucks or isn't going to have a good year, 50-60 rec's and 600-700 yards is pretty damn good for the 3rd wr/possession guy. Don't hate on the messenger b/c you're not paying attention to what the org is telling you. Message was clear, run more, pass less(it's why tice is in and martz is out), and get the balls into playmakers(tice stated marshal/forte/hester in his comment)...Bennett isn't one of the stated playmakers according to your OC. So why is he going to get MORE touches then his rookie year, which was his best year; and even if he goes above that, why would it be almost double?
I, for one, will wait until camp to see just who is the #2 WR. Jefferies hasn't proven that he is a #2 yet and may need some time to adjust to the speed of the NFL game. If that is the case then I see Bennett as the #2 and he will get his fair share of looks. Just sayin'.
OMC you might be right; and if that's the case he might hit 1K. But all things point to him playing inside at the 3 from how OTA's went. Hell Jefferies has had a problem staying healthy through them; but I have no doubt that w/2 big go up and get it WR's like Marhsal/Jefferies, and the training staff working w/Jefferies (I have to believe the team will not accept him having "lower leg issues") That Alshon will win. Remember a top rookie prospect the last few years has gotten as many catches as bennett did his rookie year, the top ones actually get more. That's how little production we've actually gotten from Bennett. I like him, I just know what he is, he's a possession WR, and he's the best in the game at it; but to think he's going to be more is putting to much hype on him IMO.
It's one thing not to expect to much from a rookie. but it's another to understand that they are still in recent years doing at least what, if not more then, Bennett has. And you still on top of that have to deal w/David, Hester Forte and Bush and an OC that wants to run more then the last 2 years and pass less. I just think you'll see a much more even spreading of the ball around to all the WR's/TE's/RB's except for Marshal; and even if the O is more potent and is on the field more and therefore has more plays and hense more pass plays it doesn't mean he's going to get MORE looks then he has in the past b/c of the weapons now around him. I'll be thrilled if he gets more then 700 yards. For him I really want to see him get 5+ TD's though then 1K yads.
Ric we have already agreed that the ball will be spread around a lot more with all the new weapons that we have and that Earl is THE possession receiver on the team. I don't think anyone is expecting more from him at this point but his skill set IS essential to the Bears controlling the game clock and keeping the "D" fresh as well. This is exactly why I think his production won't take a major hit. I guess we will all just have to wait and see but isn't it fun to discuss these matters instead of why we didn't get more weapons like in the "Angler" days ?
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