Marshall Faces His BPD and Begins His Journey to Help Others.....

**BigBadPapaBear** · 07-24-2012, 11:18 PM

Soul...today we have so many phony diseases and conditions being invented by people who are out to make a buck and more importantly control a population. You know sometimes you tell people a lie long enough and they believe it. Lots of that going around in the emdical field. Telling people they have this and that and people don't even question a thing. The real damage starts to happen when people start putting all those toxic drugs in their body and then the real fun begins.

People don't get depressed because they have biological issues or something genetically wrong with them. They get depressed over things that concern them. Having a negative outlook on life. Take now for example...many people are depressed over money or the gloomy outlook that some forecasters promote, one which I do not agree with. People are always looking for a biological cause to these things when its so much more fundamental than that. If you have a troubled heart, it will affect your thoughts, your mind and your body.

You know Soul many people suffer from psychosomatic symptoms. One of the things we've found in the scientific community in the past few years is that if you have a sense of guilt and condemnation and believe that you need to be punished for things you have done in your past...some how the body obliges and creates a chronic or in some cases a fatal disease. This is true.

How you see yourself. How you see life. How you see your future. What you speak over yourself and what you speak out of your mouth will impact your health, money, future, etc. Yet it seems most people these days can't get past looking for a 'natural' explanation to all these things. You know just as an aside...I'm not surprised Joe Paterno died so quickly when things really came out. I bet that guilt and condemnation killed that man. But you know what most are blind. They quickly run to point out it was lung cancer. But I know the real cause...

It was that overhwhelming guilt and condemnation that made his body finish him off fast.

People should be interested in treated the source, not symptoms. And that's allt eh emdical/pharmaceutical field does these days. Treat symptoms. The real causes are deep in your heart and spirit. That's a fact.

Lots of Joe Paternos out there...

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 07-25-2012, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear

Telling people they have this and that and people don't even question a thing. The real damage starts to happen when people start putting all those toxic drugs in their body and then the real fun begins.

I understand that drugs are not the "cure all" for everything. But certain physical and mental illnesses can be treated successfully with drugs. Some simply correct chemical imbalances within the body (and in some instances the brain). I don't think we can make a blanket statement about all drugs and all illnesses. But clearly certain drugs have helped people with physical and mental issues. I've certainly seen this in a number of people. For mental health issues, it is often recommended that there be a holistic approach to treatment, that can include a combination of medication, therapy, healthier life habits including nutrition and exercise etc. But drugs can still be a vital part of the equation.

In my lifetime there have been a number of instances where medical discoveries have helped eradicate horrific diseases. Just one example is Polio. You used to see a lot of people crippled by Polio. Now, it just isn't a problem. I have a member of my own family who has a thyroid imbalance. It had a huge mental impact until properly diagnosed. Now, with a pill taken in the morning, the thyroid is no longer an issue - hasn't been for years now. It was a chemical imbalance, easily corrected.

We're not going to "run this into a corner" tonight. It's a complex issue.

**BigBadPapaBear** · 07-25-2012, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I understand that drugs are not the "cure all" for everything. But certain physical and mental illnesses can be treated successfully with drugs. Some simply correct chemical imbalances within the body (and in some instances the brain). I don't think we can make a blanket statement about all drugs and all illnesses. But clearly certain drugs have helped people with physical and mental issues. I've certainly seen this in a number of people. For mental health issues, it is often recommended that there be a holistic approach to treatment, that can include a combination of medication, therapy, healthier life habits including nutrition and exercise etc. But drugs can still be a vital part of the equation.

In my lifetime there have been a number of instances where medical discoveries have helped eradicate horrific diseases. Just one example is Polio. You used to see a lot of people crippled by Polio. Now, it just isn't a problem. I have a member of my own family who has a thyroid imbalance. It had a huge mental impact until properly diagnosed. Now, with a pill taken in the morning, the thyroid is no longer an issue - hasn't been for years now. It was a chemical imbalance, easily corrected.

We're not going to "run this into a corner" tonight. It's a complex issue.

In my book, SUCCESSFULL TREATMENT of a disease is driving that disease out of your body and never having to use medication ever again. Spendng your life popping pills and seeing doctors and paying co-pays is not successfull treatment. That's called managing symptoms. If you called that success then you my friend have some very low standards for success.

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 07-25-2012, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear

In my book, SUCCESSFULL TREATMENT of a disease is driving that disease out of your body and never having to use medication ever again. Spendng your life popping pills and seeing doctors and paying co-pays is not successfull treatment. That's called managing symptoms. If you called that success then you my friend have some very low standards for success.

Some situations are not curable. Treating the symptoms may not be ideal, but it's all you can do. It can result in a better (much better) quality of life for some. But I agree with your earlier post, that pills alone are not always the answer. And medication is often over prescribed. I've seen that.

I don't think there's a blanket answer on this. It depends upon the issue, and the person. And I always figure "it's their life" and they can do what is best for them.

**yttocs** · 07-25-2012, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear

In my book, SUCCESSFULL TREATMENT of a disease is driving that disease out of your body and never having to use medication ever again. Spendng your life popping pills and seeing doctors and paying co-pays is not successfull treatment. That's called managing symptoms. If you called that success then you my friend have some very low standards for success.

So IF you have HIV you should just kill yourself , and do the world a favor? Treatment can prolong your life, yet never cure it. You could be a RICH person if you could tell the world how to force oneself to push something out of ones body. And I don't mean what you post, SHIT.

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