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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Has anyone heard if he has passed his physical? I know the trade was contengent on that.
    He has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Has anyone heard if he has passed his physical? I know the trade was contengent on that.

    Here's the answer on it from the Bucs side of the deal. They tried shopping him for a mid rounder but got nowhere so they took what the could get. A conditional 7th. He did not pass the Bucs conditioning test and so far no word from the Bears on what kind of shape he's in but he will have to pass a Bears phsysical for the trade to be good.

    One thing I would like to see confirmed one way or the other is his weight. He's listed on the Bears roster now as 6'1" and 303lbs which makes him about the same size as Paea. But in an article I read on the Comcast site this AM they had him at 6' and 343lbs. If he is 40lbs overweight right now that would be a pretty good reason why he didn't pass the Bucs conditioning test.

    I guess we'll know more after the weekend but he was a monster 3t DT coming out of college and a top 2nd round pick so if he can play even half way decent then he's about the equivalent of Okoye as far as what he may be able to add as far as the pass rush goes. Price got 3 sacks last year with less playing time than Okoye who got 4 sacks.

    Anyway you look at it it was a no risk deal for a guy looking to resurrect his career and needed a fresh start with a team where he hasn't been a disappointment. Sort of the DLine equivalent of Chilo Rachal. Great college player so so pro career so far.

    We're not looking at guys like this to come in and become an immediate starter but this type of guy can be good vet depth now and maybe a great player once they're in the system for a while. In this kids case it's all about his struggles both physically and emotionally and he either turns himself around professionally or he doesn't. He's just one of about 5 guys battling for that 4th DT spot. Stay tuned.

    Bucs couldn't get mid-round pick for Brian Price so they dumped him

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    A little more than two years after the Tampa Bay Buccaneers invested the 35th overall pick of the 2010 draft on UCLA defensive tackle Brian Price, he is gone.


    The Bucs dumped Price on Thursday, trading him to the Chicago Bears for a seventh-round draft pick in 2013. It was real simple. New coach Greg Schiano didn’t want Price around and the Bucs didn’t want to risk an injury for him in training camp that could put them on the hook for his contract this season.

    Tampa had been looking to trade Price for some time and an executive with another club said the Bucs were looking for a mid-round draft pick. No one warmed to that idea, so the Bucs took what they could get and moved on.

    Price had failed a conditioning test and he will have to pass a physical with the Bears to make the deal official. He’s been through a tremendous amount of personal struggles off the field.
    Was the conditioning test the final thing?


    It’s hard to say that,” Bucs general manager Mark Dominik said, according to PewterReport.com. “He’s had an unfortunate career and an unfortunate personal life. A really tragic personal life. So it’s very difficult to think about all the things he’s gone through, from losing his sister, to the injuries he’s dealt with and the surgeries he’s dealt with. But at some point we have to go out there and win some football games, and part of the plan for us was to be involved in free agency and find guys like Amobi Okoye and Wallace Gilberry who can help out, so it’s a position that we have focused on, knowing this day could come.”

    Price has had serious hamstring issues and Dominik defended the pick.

    “You don’t go into it and want that to happen obviously as an organization,” Dominik said. “I don’t think anyone in the NFL didn’t think Brian Price wasn’t a second-round talent. When we drafted he there wasn’t anyone saying, ‘Geez he was a fourth-round (talent).’ It just hasn’t worked out. And it is disappointing to us as an organization and I know Brian Price is disappointed it worked out the way it did. But at the same point we have to move and do what we feel as an organization – and me specifically – that are in the best interest of this football team.


    “I have a lot of respect for Brian. He has been through a lot of personal drama, and he got a lot of physical drama he has been though too. He got to get everything put together. But we will let the Bears … I’ll will watch from afar, but at the same point I am looking forward to seeing the guys who are here who can practice everyday and play everyday and contribute to this football team.”

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    He passed and will practice in a few days per the COB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear View Post
    How did I feel about what Olin did? Yea I thought he was a big dunce for doing that. I don't need to know the whole story behind why Kreutz acted like a jackoff and broke one of his lineman's jaw.

    As for the deal itself, why bring in guys recovering from serious injuries? These guys never fully recover their speed and strength. Yea they'll tell you they're healthy and 'recovered' but they never show that explosiveness again. Its a stupid trade as far as I see it. Bring in healthy bodies.
    Never isn't a word I'd use. That's your opinion, not a fact. Besides that they have a whole bunch of healthy bodies already in camp all competing for one spot as the #4 DT. Here's the list, (rookie) Cameron, (2011 PS) Miller, (vets) Collins, McCargo, Pressley, so adding one more body to the list where there was little to no risk involved makes some sense. The kid has recovered from his hammy surgeries and he did play in 2011 so it seems he no longer injured to the point of not being able to play.

    There may be other issues and the article I just posted coming from the Bucs perspective explains some of that but the most telling statement was, "their coach doesn't want him around anymore". Makes sense. He's a new guy and he didn't draft him and since he may be less than 100% and had an issue with another player he's gone. OK. Still doesn't make him a bad football player and for a "maybe" 7th why not take a shot at a kid who was a monster player coming out of college? Especially one who plays the exact position you're looking for depth at.

    If he doesn't make the team then one of the other "healthy bodies" will and we lose nothing. It's not like we gave up a prime pick for him like Angelo did for Gaines so the two situations aren't even the same. Gaines was all risk vs high reward this kid is no risk vs high reward. It's certainly no worse than anybody else we may have gotten with a 7th round pick anyway. Those guys seldom make the team and when the do........well look at your boy at LT. And he's not even injured.

    You weren't posting here when the great Olin punch out took place so I guess we'll have to take your word for it. Knowing him the way we did most of us thought it was kind of funny. A big old 6'7" 325lb OT lips off to him and Olin (who was giving up 5" and 35lbs) cleaned his clock. I don't think there was any question about who was the tougher guy and we ended up in the Super Bowl a few months later.

    Hell Price can come in and beat up the whole OLine if he wants to if it gets us into a SB again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Never isn't a word I'd use. That's your opinion, not a fact. Besides that they have a whole bunch of healthy bodies already in camp all competing for one spot as the #4 DT. Here's the list, (rookie) Cameron, (2011 PS) Miller, (vets) Collins, McCargo, Pressley, so adding one more body to the list where there was little to no risk involved makes some sense. The kid has recovered from his hammy surgeries and he did play in 2011 so it seems he no longer injured to the point of not being able to play.

    There may be other issues and the article I just posted coming from the Bucs perspective explains some of that but the most telling statement was, "their coach doesn't want him around anymore". Makes sense. He's a new guy and he didn't draft him and since he may be less than 100% and had an issue with another player he's gone. OK. Still doesn't make him a bad football player and for a "maybe" 7th why not take a shot at a kid who was a monster player coming out of college? Especially one who plays the exact position you're looking for depth at.

    If he doesn't make the team then one of the other "healthy bodies" will and we lose nothing. It's not like we gave up a prime pick for him like Angelo did for Gaines so the two situations aren't even the same. Gaines was all risk vs high reward this kid is no risk vs high reward. It's certainly no worse than anybody else we may have gotten with a 7th round pick anyway. Those guys seldom make the team and when the do........well look at your boy at LT. And he's not even injured.

    You weren't posting here when the great Olin punch out took place so I guess we'll have to take your word for it. Knowing him the way we did most of us thought it was kind of funny. A big old 6'7" 325lb OT lips off to him and Olin (who was giving up 5" and 35lbs) cleaned his clock. I don't think there was any question about who was the tougher guy and we ended up in the Super Bowl a few months later.

    Hell Price can come in and beat up the whole OLine if he wants to if it gets us into a SB again.
    Yea I imagine some guys thought it was funny that Olin cleaned his clock but from the time he was drafted it was known that he was also a very good amature boxer. A guy that can throw punches like that needs to be careful. And while I can understand how these guys get sometimes among themselves...well they were drinking that day and whatever was said is not something that Olin should have used to break a teammates jaw. Go break an opposing player's jaw, not your own. So yea in that respect it was a tool move.

    We'll see what happens with Price. I would have a different attitude of the guy was recovering from an ACL tear or something along those lines. But his injury was a gruesome one. I'll concede that a 7th rd pick is not that big a gamble. So I'll take back my initial remarks that it was a "stupid trade."

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    Olin was one of a couple of guys who ruled in the locker room. He was the "Alpha Dog" who you didn't want to cross. He always looked so happy and easy going to everyone, but he wouldn't take crap from any teammate. He has twice broken teammates jaws (not once). He was named one of the Top-10 most feared men in the NFL when he was still playing. Urlacher was once quoted as saying "No. 1 thing, I'm glad he's on my team because I wouldn't want to play against him."

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    Wiggs has become a reference point in Kreutz's history. He was called by a reporter from Chicago last year after Kreutz punched Bears teammate Fred Miller in an off-field incident. Miller suffered a broken jaw, and though he apologized for provoking the incident, it led some people to revisit what happened between Kreutz and Wiggs back in 1996.

    It was spring practice. Wiggs was a defensive tackle who started six games as a sophomore. Kreutz was coming off his freshman season. They skirmished at practice. The conflict flared up again in the locker room, and Kreutz punched Wiggs, breaking his jaw so badly it had to be wired shut for more than a month.

    Kreutz was kicked off the team for the rest of the spring and reinstated only after he attended anger-management classes.

    Wiggs couldn't eat anything solid for more than a month and lost more than 40 pounds. He missed the first three games of the next season, but even when he returned he was 25 pounds lighter than he had been.

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    He wasn't. He's even had anger management help. He was just a fiery player. A guy like him in the locker room can be an asset, not a liability. Obviously though, you don't want a guy harming your own players. Although, I can think of some Bears players in past years I wished he'd broken their jaws
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Has anyone heard if he has passed his physical? I know the trade was contengent on that.

    Yeah and he passed his physical with the Bucs too. It was a conditioning test he failed.....they say. He says he tweaked a muscle sprinting out of a 3 point stance and it slowed him down a bit. So that's when they tested him, he wasn't as fast as they wanted, they found their excuse and decided to get rid of him.

    Heck they were offering him for a mid round pick to begin with. Now if Emery would have agreed to give them something in the range of a 4th rounder I would have said that was foolish but for a "conditional" 7th rounder. Hell, I'll do that deal all day long. If Price doesn't make the team we owe them zip but if he does and provides a decent pass rush and depth than we got ourselves a huge bargain.

    Good chance for some upside with no downside. I'll make those kind of investments any day.
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