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    Kiper Love: "This team can compete with anybody if the health is there."

    I'm not used to these folks saying good things about the Bears. Is this a "good thing" or is Hell freezing over and the world about to end?

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    Help added: Jay Cutler has spent virtually every year of his career both questioned for his decision-making and lauded for his raw quarterbacking instincts and exceptional arm. He is, like a lot of ultra-talented QBs thrown into the mix early in their careers, somehow stuck in that "Gifted gunslinger" category. But Cutler has, particularly in Chicago, also suffered from a lack of good pass-catching options as well as a lack of blocking. You can look like a gunslinger when you're running for your life and trying to throw receivers open. His career INT rate -- basically the same as Eli Manning's -- should continue to improve, and last year was at just 2.2 percent of throws.

    Before he got hurt, he was on pace for his best season ever in terms of limiting mistake throws. But where he's really needed help in Chicago is with receivers who can go get the ball. I've seen Cutler throw the kind of back shoulder or "jump ball" passes to receivers with the idea they'll make a play on the ball, but guys like Devin Hester aren't programmed that way. Instead, you see overthrows or INTs. With the addition of Brandon Marshall (via trade) and Alshon Jeffery (draft), the Bears have totally changed the dynamic at wide receiver. Cutler now has an interesting mix at wideout, with Marshall and Jeffery providing size and red zone matchup potential, and Hester and Earl Bennett the speed to target good matchups. Bennett is decent in the slot, and my guess is they'll move Hester around.


    The defense, solid if not spectacular for years, should return largely intact, though with the addition of a pair of draft picks who could work their way into the rotation. Shea McClellin could give the Bears some pass-rush depth, but lacks the athleticism to explode on the scene. I think he'll be a solid but not flashy addition. Same goes for Brandon Hardin, who could push to start early at strong safety. One guy to keep an eye on for down the line: fourth-round pick Evan Rodriguez is a tight end who can run, and this roster lacks much at the position, to put it mildly.



    Questions that remain: It's at least up for debate, but it would be hard to find another team who was clearly worse than the Bears in pass protection last season. Injuries took their toll, but there were times when the pass blocking for Chicago would have been comical if not for the hits Cutler was taking. The good news for Chicago is the line gets to start over, with more health. Gabe Carimi, last year's first-round pick out of Wisconsin, will be back, for starters. As well, I think Mike Tice will do more to protect the line. By that I mean he'll leave tight ends on the line to block, and have running backs help out. Cutler's ability to move in the pocket, get the ball out quickly and take hits was taken advantage of.


    Elsewhere, the age of the Chicago defense is a constant discussion, but I'm not of the belief they're ready to take a step back. This team can compete with anybody if the health is there.



    Next year's help now: Johnny Adams, CB, Michigan State
    I think he'll be a great fit in the Cover 2. He diagnoses well and is physical. The guy is fantastic and keeps the play in front of him.

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    This Bears team is stacked. Good article JABF99. I've been saying it all along...teams are going to be shocked at how good this offense is going to be. They have a QB that can fling it and WRs that are going to cause some serious mismatch problems with their size. And don't forget we have a heck of a RB in Forte and a sensational complimentary back in Bush. I will not be surprised one bit when they are putting up over 30pts a game almost effortlessly. Way too much talent on the field not too and you don't need perfect pass protection anymore to move the ball.

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    Great article. There were reasons the media, ecspeically the 4 letter network didn't say good things about us; we lacked a quality qb and quality weapons for him. We now have that and the run game/D to support it. Now they are saying good things b/c it's hard to be negative.

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    I think this team is better on offense but older on defense and 2 bumbling idiots calling the plays with the clueless wonder still coaching the team. Yeah I am Mr. negative yet I have seen teams bring in huge FA or make trades to land great players only to lay a polished turd at the end of the season. See 2011 Philly Eagles for a good example. Jay Cutler will have to learn a new offense from a guy who pretty much polished a few Lovie Smith turds to get himself promoted to OC for doing such a wonderful job with this POS OL. Rod Marinelli( Mr 0-16) got promoted from DL coach to DC for pretty much doing nothing also. For this team to be successful Lovie Smith has to go and a new group of coaches needs to be brought in. I just want to see a HC that can make decisions in the second half of games and not leave our franchise qb in games that are unwinnable.

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    I must agree to disagree, 4th. The only thing that ruined Tice in Minnesota was Daunte Culpepper's ACL/MCL/other-CL tear that effectively ended the career of a top 5 QB at that point. With Marinelli, dude had Matt Millen as his GM. Even Angelo wouldn't have messed up all of those picks. Look what tice did with our o-line, with all of the switches in the preseason and no offseason to get them competent. Look at how the D was until Cutler was hurt. They were DOMINATING everyone. KC, OAK, SEA and DEN had no realistic shot against the team with Cutler as QB. It was obvious that Cutler and Tice were making an impact on Martz at that point, and had things worked out, they likely would've had a better shot at beating, if not getting the deed done, against the Pack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th and 26 View Post
    I think this team is better on offense but older on defense and 2 bumbling idiots calling the plays with the clueless wonder still coaching the team. Yeah I am Mr. negative yet I have seen teams bring in huge FA or make trades to land great players only to lay a polished turd at the end of the season. See 2011 Philly Eagles for a good example. Jay Cutler will have to learn a new offense from a guy who pretty much polished a few Lovie Smith turds to get himself promoted to OC for doing such a wonderful job with this POS OL. Rod Marinelli( Mr 0-16) got promoted from DL coach to DC for pretty much doing nothing also. For this team to be successful Lovie Smith has to go and a new group of coaches needs to be brought in. I just want to see a HC that can make decisions in the second half of games and not leave our franchise qb in games that are unwinnable.
    I think we have one of the best coaching staff's in the NFL right now. Not in past years, but THIS year. There simply is no better Special Teams coach than Dave Toub in the NFL. Cutler, Bates & Tice will be an incredible combination with the offensive play scheme and play calling. Tice will be in his 3rd year with this oline and I believe we'll be solid there. Just sit back and watch the fireworks on offense this year because you're going to see something we haven't seen in the 50+ years I've been a fan.

    Marinelli is an older coach that I have a deep respect for. Guys like Peppers, Urlacher, Peanut and Briggs would die for this guy. Clearly they believe he is one hell of a D coach. I do too.

    Lovie was greener than a gourd when he came here. Zero HC experience. It's been one heck of a bumpy ride as he climbed the learning curve. He's made a lot of mistakes, but he's learned from them. By now, I think he's over that learning curve and can be a rock solid head coach for us. Frankly, I believe he was given crap talent under Jerry Angelo (with some notable exceptions).

    This is clearly the best talent we've had since the mid 80's. You can't compare this team with the 0-16 Detroit. Well you can. But you might as well compare us to a volleyball team then. The 2 have about THAT much in common.

    And the 2011 Eagles? They really don't have any comparables to this team either. None really.

    One other thing. This team has more "quality" depth than I've seen in many years. Training camp actually has some drama and meaning this year due to this fact. That can have a huge impact upon a Super Bowl run this year. Injuries happen. We actually have some decent #2's in place for when that happens. Not too many teams have this luxury.

    So here's the deal. I'm gonna sit back and enjoy watching one of the best Bears teams of the past half-century that I've been rooting for these guys. I'm gonna savor every heartbeat and every snap.

    It's a GREAT year to be a Chicago Bears fan!
    Last edited by JustAnotherBearsFan99; 08-01-2012 at 05:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th and 26 View Post
    I think this team is better on offense but older on defense and 2 bumbling idiots calling the plays with the clueless wonder still coaching the team. Yeah I am Mr. negative yet I have seen teams bring in huge FA or make trades to land great players only to lay a polished turd at the end of the season. See 2011 Philly Eagles for a good example. Jay Cutler will have to learn a new offense from a guy who pretty much polished a few Lovie Smith turds to get himself promoted to OC for doing such a wonderful job with this POS OL. Rod Marinelli( Mr 0-16) got promoted from DL coach to DC for pretty much doing nothing also. For this team to be successful Lovie Smith has to go and a new group of coaches needs to be brought in. I just want to see a HC that can make decisions in the second half of games and not leave our franchise qb in games that are unwinnable.
    Somebody ban this Packers troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    I must agree to disagree, 4th. The only thing that ruined Tice in Minnesota was Daunte Culpepper's ACL/MCL/other-CL tear that effectively ended the career of a top 5 QB at that point. With Marinelli, dude had Matt Millen as his GM. Even Angelo wouldn't have messed up all of those picks. Look what tice did with our o-line, with all of the switches in the preseason and no offseason to get them competent. Look at how the D was until Cutler was hurt. They were DOMINATING everyone. KC, OAK, SEA and DEN had no realistic shot against the team with Cutler as QB. It was obvious that Cutler and Tice were making an impact on Martz at that point, and had things worked out, they likely would've had a better shot at beating, if not getting the deed done, against the Pack.
    Sweet post Henry. I'm with you. You took that clown behind the woodshed and gave him a good whoopin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear View Post
    Somebody ban this Packers troll.
    I'm gonna ship him some of my kool aid. I've been pounding it down since we got Emery and Marshall on board. I can't believe I just wrote a post that was positive about a Bears coaching staff. That means I'd probably blow a .30 on the kool aid breathalyzer right now (and I'm loving it ).

    p.s. Maybe Hell did freeze over...


    Last edited by JustAnotherBearsFan99; 08-01-2012 at 07:03 PM.
    Trestman - Kromer - Tucker - DeCamillis

    I'm looking forward to seeing these guys coach. Hope they're good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    I'm gonna ship him some of my kool aid. I've been pounding it down since we got Emery and Marshall on board.
    Hahaha

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