Bears VS Donkeys game thread

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 08-10-2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by bearsinhouston

Fan99 - I normally agree with your viewpoint, but not sure we can get to a SB with an average line easily. Post-season, yes, but the teams that get to the SB usually have a very good pass rush and either a super O or D (sometimes both). An average line against those teams may not cut it.

But at this point, a deep run in postseason would make me happy. As long as Emery keeps upgrading the team, we will be fine.

I read a good article a few weeks ago regarding oline play in the NFL, and how it has evolved. It said that the age of the great NFL olines is past. Even recent Super Bowl winners have not had truly GREAT offensive lines. They have solid olines. But not like the great ones of the past. Part of this may be due to the fact defenses have evolved WAY beyond what we used to see years ago. Defenses are EXTREMELY complex and effective now.

What does this mean? It means there are going to be times when your QB gets sacked, knocked down and hurried. It's just a "fact of life" now. Don't get me wrong though, our oline shouldn't be crap like last year. That wasn't an average or decent oline. We all know that.

But I can see THIS oline is plenty good enough to get us to a Super Bowl - if - the other units do THEIR job (defense, ST's, skill offensive players). I'm just trying to be a realist here. I'm an oline nut. A crazy oline nut. So, while I'd like to have 5 Pro-Bowl linemen, backed up by another 5 Pro Bowl linemen (I'm joking here

) but "reality" is that we can get plenty of mileage out of this crew - even Webb.

But, heck, I may be delusional too

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 08-10-2012, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Chi66

I'm not a fan of Spencer at LG. I think he's not as good as advertised.. plus I'd rather have someone reliable next to Webb.

Spencer is a solid veteran who plays smart football. He's not going to be great, or a Pro Bowl guy. But once he gets used to working WITH Webb (remember this is 1 unit with 5 moving pieces, that requires timing and chemistry and plenty of game reps together), he will be solid.

I've watched Spencer closely since he's been here. He's better than a lot of people give him credit for. And Webb needs a veteran like Spencer next to him. They will be good together, but it's going to take more than 1 Pre-Season game to "get there"......

**bearsinhouston** · 08-10-2012, 11:37 AM

Well, we'll see how far they will take us. Obviously, a SB run wouldn't hurt my feelings!

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I read a good article a few weeks ago regarding oline play in the NFL, and how it has evolved. It said that the age of the great NFL olines is past. Even recent Super Bowl winners have not had truly GREAT offensive lines. They have solid olines. But not like the great ones of the past. Part of this may be due to the fact defenses have evolved WAY beyond what we used to see years ago. Defenses are EXTREMELY complex and effective now.

What does this mean? It means there are going to be times when your QB gets sacked, knocked down and hurried. It's just a "fact of life" now. Don't get me wrong though, our oline shouldn't be crap like last year. That wasn't an average or decent oline. We all know that.

But I can see THIS oline is plenty good enough to get us to a Super Bowl - if - the other units do THEIR job (defense, ST's, skill offensive players). I'm just trying to be a realist here. I'm an oline nut. A crazy oline nut. So, while I'd like to have 5 Pro-Bowl linemen, backed up by another 5 Pro Bowl linemen (I'm joking here

) but "reality" is that we can get plenty of mileage out of this crew - even Webb.

But, heck, I may be delusional too

**Riczaj01** · 08-10-2012, 12:45 PM

How did Bush/Bell/Allen look? What about Hester/Golden and some of the other guys?

**MPBears68** · 08-10-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

How did Bush/Bell/Allen look? What about Hester/Golden and some of the other guys?

The running game was non-existent. Like 35yds between all of them.

Hester hardly played. Golden made a few nice receptions. The new receivers looked promising.

**Aenir** · 08-10-2012, 10:03 PM

I notice people mentioning Spencer, Wheres CWill?

Have I missed something?

**Henry Burris** · 08-10-2012, 10:15 PM

Who was the linebacker with the 97(i think)? That dude was hustlin' all over the field. Campbell's pitch to Bush was a little off, but not enough for him to f that up.

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 08-10-2012, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Aenir

I notice people mentioning Spencer, Wheres CWill?

Have I missed something?

Spencer is now LG. C.Will is swing tackle who got a lot of reps at RT last night behind Carimi.

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 08-10-2012, 10:27 PM

I'm watching the game for the 3rd time right now. For those who have the game recorded, run through the game watching the line play. Both "O" and "D" and slow mo, and stop action (really break down every single play). I think the right side or our oline had more problems than the left. Carimi got bulled around a bit. On the left side, Spencer was not so hot. Webb? Webb played a pretty decent game. One false start, but other than that he looked pretty solid last night.

This is my 3rd time through the game watching Webb. If you guys see something I don't, post it here. I'd like to cue it up and see it.

He had a couple of ugly plays, but that was it - including that first series against the #1's of Denver (the drive where Campbell fumbles). I'm not trying to pump up Webb as being great. But I don't see a bad night last night. I'm all for giving him a full game of reps. But that doesn't mean he sucked last night. They're just trying to get him max reps this off season to get his game where it needs to be.

**little bear** · 08-11-2012, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by Henry Burris

Who was the linebacker with the 97(i think)? That dude was hustlin' all over the field.

J.T. Thomas

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