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    Is it just me who's worried about the Bears' run defense?

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    9:00 a.m. CDT, August 21, 2012
    Everybody’s watching left tackle, especially against the Giants’ Super Bowl-devastating pass rush and fearing for Jay Cutler’s life in New York this Friday when the Bears play their one moderately important practice game.

    Left tackle is the position that many believe is the position that will determine whether the Bears fly or die in this Super Bowl-contending season.

    You know how it works: Cutler can’t hit Brandon Marshall, Devin Hester, Alshon Jeffery, Earl Bennett or Lovie Smith’s fantasy tight end Kellen Davis if he’s a chalk outline.

    But guess what? Maybe not.

    Or at least, maybe not left tackle in a rout in ranking Bears potential season-killing issues, and here’s why:

    There’s reason to question whether the Bears can stop the run without Brian Urlacher.

    Heck, there’s reason to question it even with the future Hall-of-Famer until we see the 34-year-old, post-op middle linebacker return to something close to his freakish ways.

    What’s more, because there’s also reason to question Urlacher’s regular attendance during the regular season, no matter how many times he says, “Sept. 9,’’ this could get messy.

    Most of the time, you can’t use raw stats from practice games with a lot of confidence, but still, giving up an average of about 4.0 yards per carry is August is not attractive.

    The Bears’ starting defense was better after giving up 40 yards rushing on Washington’s first series Saturday, but still, the Bears’ starting defense gave up 40 yards rushing on Washington’s first series Saturday.

    That’s why the Bears’ run defense is worth a conversation.

    Fact is, the Bears lose about two of every three games that Urlacher misses, and when he misses games, the Bears miss a lot of gaps.

    That might not mean a thing against the dogbreath Colts in the opener, but do the Bears really want to give up another 180-something rushing yards to the infuriating Cedric Benson in addition to whatever it is that Aaron Rodgers might feel like doing in that second game?

    If you’re an opponent who wants to mitigate the Bears’ weapon of pass destruction Julius Peppers, then you scheme to run the ball and make Peppers fight through the trash without the payoff of finding a vulnerable quarterback.

    The Bears want to play as much Tampa-2 as they can, but that doesn’t happen unless the defensive tackles blow up everything. My kingdom for a Pro Bowler, but for now, the first guy to slow the run gets a roster spot and the first guy to stop a tailback for no gain gets to start.

    In concert with the scheme is Urlacher’s incredible athleticism. From the offensive backfield to the secondary and sideline to sideline, Urlacher has fixed a lot of issues. Nick Roach is a nice player in Urlacher’s stead, but he can’t fix those issues.

    Truth is, I’m not sure Urlacher could fix the Bears’ latest attempt to forfeit the safety position, but you get the point.

    Interestingly, if J’Marcus Webb can play the left tackle position he was given, or if Chris Williams can play the position Webb was given, then the Bears’ run defense will get a lot better. Do the math:

    Cutler gets protection, it’s all you can eat with jump balls down the field, the big targets get a lovely parting gift in the red zone, the Bears run up big leads, and the opponent gives up trying to run the ball as it fights to come back from a big deficit.

    OK, so maybe left tackle indeed is THE issue for this week’s Friday night lights.


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    I think in part that Toe starts at NT w/Paea flipping from 3tech to NT. I think Collins and Price will be tested vs. the Giants OL run game.
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    Im worried about the run defense. We have anothe mark anderson type in Mcclenan out there and it mirrors what we did with anderson and our rush defense was epic fail doing that. I think Lovie doesnt take the NT position seriously enough and wants pass rushers which also F up our rush defense until Toe finally got a shot to play. Lets see what happens but Lovie system is get the qb not stop the run.

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    I don't know guys. I didn't see much of that last game but teams always hit a few big runs against us early and then the defense adjusts to what they're doing and it stops. Seems to me it's been like that forever.

    Our DT's shoot gaps to get the TFL or disrupt blocking which leaves the LB's unprotected and needing to fill the gaps left by the DTs. When that doesn't happen or when they get blocked then somebody pops a big run.

    So we figure out just which gaps they're attacking and compensate and after that the problem seems to go away. For the most part it tends to happen between the tackles. With the speed and range we have on defense it's pretty tough for them to get outside.

    McC needs to learn contain responsibilities and how to string out the play so someone else can clean up and make the tackle. Right now he's just trying too hard to make every play himself which to me is better than seeing him standing around with his thumb up his rookie ass. He'll figure it out as he gets more experience. Let's all go back and watch the tapes from Pep's rookie season and see how he was doing back then.
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    The tackling needs to get a lot better. Way too many missed tackles.
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    As Mowtown and I have chatted about before Melton needs to improve his rush D substantially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    The tackling needs to get a lot better. Way too many missed tackles.
    Tackleing? All I see is people going for the BIG HIT. You must be OLD, ( as I am too) to think thats what players do, TACKLE. It's such a lost art nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yttocs View Post
    Tackleing? All I see is people going for the BIG HIT. You must be OLD, ( as I am too) to think thats what players do, TACKLE. It's such a lost art nowadays.
    I agree completely. Teams don't practice tackling in practice anymore due to the threat of injury. It's really a lost art for the most part. It's frustrating as a fan to see all the missed and bad tackles in games.

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    I wouldn't worry until it starts becoming a trend in the regular season. I do agree about missed tackles, but there is time to perfect techniques before week one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gammabears View Post
    I wouldn't worry until it starts becoming a trend in the regular season. I do agree about missed tackles, but there is time to perfect techniques before week one.
    I agree with you. I thought about this. Our guys know how to tackle. They've been taught tackling fundamentals since Pop Warner league - and on throughout high school and college. They'll be fine once the RS begins.
    Trestman - Kromer - Tucker - DeCamillis

    I'm looking forward to seeing these guys coach. Hope they're good.


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