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    Quote Originally Posted by bearsinhouston View Post
    Actually don't think Tice will put him back there even if we do get a serviceable OT.
    You may very well be correct. And if you are, Tice better be damn clearly vindicated by Spencer at LG this year because o/w thats a FAIL that is totally 100% on him as a coach and personnel manager. He has an alternative with a proven record at the position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPBears68 View Post
    Just gotta love the idea of "eyeing" a shit player cut by a team who's one glaring weakness last year was the unit that player was a key member of.

    That's just brilliant.
    That had to be said so I'm glad it was you. I figure I've been doing too much ranting about injured players lately. We've got one on IR, another nursing a should dislocation and we're looking at one who couldn't pass his Packer physical because of a knee injury!

    If the guy is healthy enough to play and he doesn't suck I can see why some experienced help might be good but I does raise some questions about their thinking. I'm all for keeping a "Help Wanted" sign posted but I was hoping it would attract a LT not a Safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearsinhouston View Post
    I think any of the better players won't be released til final cuts. Personally, that's when I'd try to make a play for any other players. I think that is also why we wanted to bring down Bell's salary. I think we may make a move or two there.
    I can think of a couple more salary reducing cuts we could make if our LT can learn to block DEs without so much added support and we could move the guy we're using to light a fire under his ass back to LG where he belongs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPBears68 View Post
    Let's hope a move for a marginally competent vet swing OT is in the cards so CWill can go back to his best position at LG where we just happen to be struggling right now. We need that much more than a 5th safety...unless of course they're totally lying to us again about the severity of Conte's shoulder like they have with Urlacher's knee or Hardin's neck.
    Quote Originally Posted by bearsinhouston View Post
    Actually don't think Tice will put him back there even if we do get a serviceable OT.
    Quote Originally Posted by MPBears68 View Post
    You may very well be correct. And if you are, Tice better be damn clearly vindicated by Spencer at LG this year because o/w thats a FAIL that is totally 100% on him as a coach and personnel manager. He has an alternative with a proven record at the position.
    All potentially very true. In a sense Tice is between the rock and a hard place as far as that left side of the line goes. His options are slim and none and slim keeps getting slimmer by the minute. If there isn't a serviceable vet OT released by someone who we can sign then slim goes anorexic and we get to start the year with Spencer at LG and CWill playing swing OT.

    I don't know what to think anymore. I see the need for a vet OT to back Webb and Carimi. That's not an option. It's a necessity if we plan on keeping chaos to a minimum if one is injured or Webb screws up so badly that he loses his spot and suddenly gets hired as the poster boy for McDonalds or Taco Bell. We can't afford another deal like we did when we had to move OMG into that starting RT spot and right now if all we had as an option was James Brown I'm afraid that's about what we'd get. He's not ready to start yet. Not even close.

    Thinking about it as positively as I can, after a few starts, Spencer did adapt to RG fairly well last year and playing there his pass blocking was actually one of his strong points. There seem to be conflicting opinions but Brad Biggs, who follows the team as closely as anyone, says he's been OK. Consistent was the term I think he used. All we can really hope for is that with a few more starts he and Webb will get it together over there and begin to play well enough to survive to start with and progress as the season goes on. What other choice is there?

    The woulda, shoulda, coulda time is past. It's now become the didn't. So just structure the line with best five starters and the best three backups we've got and work the hell out of all of them. No one ever said that changes couldn't be made if it doesn't work out but for now these guys need to know where they're gonna be playing and who starts and who sits. After that's been done the competition can continue weekly from now until January. Nobody on that line should feel so secure that their job isn't in jeopardy week in and week out.

    Maybe we are lacking as far as the best starting talent goes but we do have some advantage in that whoever plays backup will be a vet with his own NFL starting experience so should an injury happen the next guy in line should be able to step in with no real loss in efficiency. I guess that's one benefit of having a deep but very mediocre bunch of lineman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    That had to be said so I'm glad it was you. I figure I've been doing too much ranting about injured players lately. We've got one on IR, another nursing a should dislocation and we're looking at one who couldn't pass his Packer physical because of a knee injury!

    If the guy is healthy enough to play and he doesn't suck I can see why some experienced help might be good but I does raise some questions about their thinking. I'm all for keeping a "Help Wanted" sign posted but I was hoping it would attract a LT not a Safety.
    I was only ranting against Peprah because he blows and couldn't cut it last year with a team who's secondary sucked. Didn't even realize he was cut due to injury which it all the more puzzling. Let's see now...

    We have one safety with a bum knee, one with a bum shoulder, one IR'd with a pain in the neck, and one who injured our MLB's knee. Priceless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    All potentially very true. In a sense Tice is between the rock and a hard place as far as that left side of the line goes. His options are slim and none and slim keeps getting slimmer by the minute. If there isn't a serviceable vet OT released by someone who we can sign then slim goes anorexic and we get to start the year with Spencer at LG and CWill playing swing OT.

    I don't know what to think anymore. I see the need for a vet OT to back Webb and Carimi. That's not an option. It's a necessity if we plan on keeping chaos to a minimum if one is injured or Webb screws up so badly that he loses his spot and suddenly gets hired as the poster boy for McDonalds or Taco Bell. We can't afford another deal like we did when we had to move OMG into that starting RT spot and right now if all we had as an option was James Brown I'm afraid that's about what we'd get. He's not ready to start yet. Not even close.

    Thinking about it as positively as I can, after a few starts, Spencer did adapt to RG fairly well last year and playing there his pass blocking was actually one of his strong points. There seem to be conflicting opinions but Brad Biggs, who follows the team as closely as anyone, says he's been OK. Consistent was the term I think he used. All we can really hope for is that with a few more starts he and Webb will get it together over there and begin to play well enough to survive to start with and progress as the season goes on. What other choice is there?

    The woulda, shoulda, coulda time is past. It's now become the didn't. So just structure the line with best five starters and the best three backups we've got and work the hell out of all of them. No one ever said that changes couldn't be made if it doesn't work out but for now these guys need to know where they're gonna be playing and who starts and who sits. After that's been done the competition can continue weekly from now until January. Nobody on that line should feel so secure that their job isn't in jeopardy week in and week out.

    Maybe we are lacking as far as the best starting talent goes but we do have some advantage in that whoever plays backup will be a vet with his own NFL starting experience so should an injury happen the next guy in line should be able to step in with no real loss in efficiency. I guess that's one benefit of having a deep but very mediocre bunch of lineman.
    My fingers are crossed on this one and Emery better be ready to pounce. This, by getting us OT depth and freeing CW to play LG, is really the ONLY personnel option we have left to add to the "floor & ceiling" of this OL. It could make a significant difference if we get so lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    It's a necessity if we plan on keeping chaos to a minimum if one is injured or Webb screws up so badly that he loses his spot and suddenly gets hired as the poster boy for McDonalds or Taco Bell.
    Or chicken. Or pasta. His opportunities are growing by the minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearsinhouston View Post
    Or chicken. Or pasta. His opportunities are growing by the minute.
    With the way Webb lets defenders pass him, I'd think White Castle would be knocking down his door to promote their "sliders"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark86x View Post
    With the way Webb lets defenders pass him, I'd think White Castle would be knocking down his door to promote their "sliders"....

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