ESPN: Lovie an "Elite" Head Coach

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 08-29-2012, 09:50 AM

They rank him equal to GB Packer's Mike McCarthy - Elite.

LINK to the article

BBAO: Ranking NFC North coaches

You might have noticed ESPN analyst Herm Edwards' ranking of all 32 NFL coaches

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It requires an Insider subscription to view fully, but I can tell you a couple of things about it.

First, Edwards placed coaches in five categories. Two of our coaches -- Lovie Smith of the Chicago Bears and Mike McCarthy of the Green Bay Packers -- ranked in the second tier, which Edwards called "Elite." Detroit Lions coach Jim Schwartz placed in the third tier, known as "Ascending," and the Minnesota Vikings' Leslie Frazier is in the fourth tier. The "jury is still out" on Frazier, according to Edwards.

I don't see anything glaringly inaccurate here. McCarthy has won a Super Bowl, but doesn't qualify for a first tier called "Hall of Fame-worthy." The same goes for Smith, who took his team to the Super Bowl in 2006. Schwartz has the Lions moving in the right direction, but his career record remains 18-31. And Frazier, as we've discussed, is entering a crucial year in his career.

**4DaBERS** · 08-29-2012, 10:22 AM

Well, it's always difficult to critique someones "opinion", especially when it's based on subjective information (with some objective data thrown in for good measure). "Elite" is not the word I would use to describe Lovie, but it's all relative to the parameters Edwards has based his other "categories" on. Personally, I would call Lovie "average" to "slightly above average". I think he has many very good traits, but he also has some disappointing traits in my opinion. Whatever category the author would place Jeff Fisher in, I would place Lovie Smith in. I think they are very similar in the success they have had and very similar in the quality of their coaching talent.

**bearsinhouston** · 08-29-2012, 10:30 AM

I absolutely and totally agree

Originally Posted by 4DaBERS

Well, it's always difficult to critique someones "opinion", especially when it's based on subjective information (with some objective data thrown in for good measure). "Elite" is not the word I would use to describe Lovie, but it's all relative to the parameters Edwards has based his other "categories" on. Personally, I would call Lovie "average" to "slightly above average". I think he has many very good traits, but he also has some disappointing traits in my opinion. Whatever category the author would place Jeff Fisher in, I would place Lovie Smith in. I think they are very similar in the success they have had and very similar in the quality of their coaching talent.

**MPBears68** · 08-29-2012, 10:53 AM

IMO, Lovie would have to have demonstrated dramatically better tactical game coaching skills (clock management, challenges, etc) to qualify as anything above a "B".

**ZifanQ** · 08-29-2012, 10:59 AM

When he knows when to chanllenges, he might be up there..

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 08-29-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by 4DaBERS

Well, it's always difficult to critique someones "opinion", especially when it's based on subjective information (with some objective data thrown in for good measure). "Elite" is not the word I would use to describe Lovie, but it's all relative to the parameters Edwards has based his other "categories" on. Personally, I would call Lovie "average" to "slightly above average". I think he has many very good traits, but he also has some disappointing traits in my opinion. Whatever category the author would place Jeff Fisher in, I would place Lovie Smith in. I think they are very similar in the success they have had and very similar in the quality of their coaching talent.

I really agree with this.

BTW, I actually like Jeff Fisher. I think he had to work with a crazy owner who meddled too much into the team's affairs. I believe Fisher will be very successful in St. Louis.

**Riczaj01** · 08-29-2012, 11:40 AM

I wouldn't put him as elite. But he's knocking on the door.

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 08-29-2012, 11:44 AM

I have to LOL. If this thread were posted on the CBMB there would have been a zillion haters on it immediately. You'd see the mushroom cloud from a thousand miles away

(I was worried a bit about posting it here.......didn't know WHAT to expect)

**ZifanQ** · 08-29-2012, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I have to LOL. If this thread were posted on the CBMB there would have been a zillion haters on it immediately. You'd see the mushroom cloud from a thousand miles away

(I was worried a bit about posting it here.......didn't know WHAT to expect)

Well we're not 10 years old kids showing off our keyboard muscles.. The board posters are old gits(Please don't kill me for this!) mature and wise.. No need to start a flame thread here. ^^ (I would make a joke here if I could come up with one...)

**Riczaj01** · 08-29-2012, 12:29 PM

Eh, what did you just type there? I cannot read that tiny print, are you trying to make fun of us you whippa snappa? And get off my lawn!

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