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    Packers' downfield passing has plummeted to the absolute bottom of the NFL

    Kevin Seifert article. Interesting.

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    Packers' drop in explosiveness


    Aaron Rodgers' downfield passing attack has been held in check over the Packers' last four games.

    You might not believe this even if I tell you and back it up with facts and remind you that I have nothing to gain by pulling your chain.

    OK, here goes.

    As you probably know, the Packers are 1-3 in quarterback Aaron Rodgers' past four starts, including January's playoff loss to the New York Giants. Here is what you might not realize: Over that stretch, the Packers' downfield passing offense has plummeted to the absolute bottom of the NFL's rankings.

    That's right. At this moment, no team is having a harder time being explosive than the Packers. The Packers!

    Anecdotally, I think we would all agree their offensive production has slowed since the Kansas City Chiefs ended a 19-game winning streak last December. But the drop in efficiency and production of their best attribute has been acute, and it continued into Sunday's season-opening loss to the San Francisco 49ers.

    ESPN Stats & Information defines downfield throws as those that travel at least 15 yards in the air past the line of scrimmage. As the first chart shows, Rodgers' completion percentage has fallen by more than half in those situations to 25.8, and his Total Quarterback Rating (QBR) has dropped to 17.4 (on a scale of 0-100). Both figures are league lows for starters with at least 25 plays/attempts over that stretch.

    In short, Rodgers and the Packers hit a wall at full speed and haven't recovered. They were setting NFL records for downfield efficiency during their winning streak, but most recently they were reduced to dumping off 20 of their 30 completions to receiver Randall Cobb and tight end Jermichael Finley (for a total of 124 yards) against the 49ers.

    To be clear, a reduced ability to hit big plays shouldn't be a death knell for any team, even in a passing league. For the Packers, however, it has been their team-wide identity during one of the most successful periods in team history, and it has helped cover for deficiencies in other areas of the team. In response, the Packers must find an antidote or make substantive adjustments to their approach.

    I don't expect that to be an easy job during a short week of preparation for an opponent, the Chicago Bears, that has stood up well against the Packers' downfield passing throughout Rodgers' career. As the second chart shows, Rodgers has a 65.7 passer rating on throws of 15-plus air yards against the Bears and a 102.7 passer rating against everyone else.

    Aaron Rodgers: Career passing 15+ air yards

    Opponent Games* Comp. Att. Pct. Yards TD INT Rating
    All but Bears 55 182 407 44.7 5,858 40 21 102.7
    Bears 8 20 53 37.7 552 2 3 65.9
    * Regular-season games
    Source: ESPN Stats & Information



    (Thanks to ESPN's Keith Hawkins, Jason Starrett and John McTigue for their research.)

    Those are the facts. Naturally, the far more difficult task is understanding what has happened and how it can be fixed. There isn't likely to be one "magic bullet" answer other than to say defenses are prioritizing the deep pass and taking their chances with other aspects of the Packers' offense.

    The 49ers, for one, used a secondary with exceptional man-to-man coverage skills, combined with deep safeties, to limit the Packers' downfield chances. They displayed little regard for the Packers' running game, and the Packers complied by calling only nine running plays (all to tailback Cedric Benson) and going without a running back on the field for more than half (31 of 61) of their plays.

    "Their key thing was to keep us up front," said receiver Jordy Nelson, who caught five passes for 64 yards. "They don't want to give up any big plays. They did a good job of making us go the long way. That's tough against a defense like that. Going 10 yards at a time, three downs to get a first down. It makes it real tough on us. But it's going to be no different on Thursday. Chicago is going to do the same thing. They'll keep us in front."

    Said Rodgers: "We didn’t have the opportunity to take a lot of shots downfield, but when we did, they made some plays on it."

    Indeed, Rodgers directed three deep sideline passes in the first half of Sunday's game. None of them were ideal matchups. All were to receiver James Jones, who is talented but must be considered the Packers' third-best downfield threat after Nelson and Greg Jennings. Two of the passes fell incomplete, largely because Rodgers couldn't drop the ball into the tiniest of windows available because of coverage from cornerbacks Tarell Brown and Chris Culliver. On the third, Jones committed offensive pass interference to create space to make the catch.

    (Jones did haul in a 49-yard pass in the fourth quarter to set up the Packers' final score.)

    For the most part, the 49ers played their safeties deep and kept Nelson and Jennings in front of them. Case in point: Safety Dashon Goldson stymied one of the Packers' most successful downfield routes by diagnosing a play-action post to Nelson early in the third quarter.

    To be clear, the 49ers might have the NFL's best defense. But even a moderate defense can take steps to take away a single weapon. If you were the Bears or anyone else, why wouldn't you play as deep as possible and challenge the Packers to beat you with short passes and a running game they sometimes ignore?

    These are some of the questions the Packers must face in this short week. Do they still want to be a downfield team? Or did their extensive game plan for Cobb on Sunday indicate their planned response to defenses that sit back to take away the big play? And would that mean for a defense? Its margin for error is lower when not protected by an explosive offense.

    Four games isn't a huge sample size. When it carries over from one season to the next, however, it's fair to call it a trend. But like all trends, it can be stopped, redirected or reversed. Let's see what the Packers come up with.
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    The key is what's said at the end. It's a very small sampling that may show a recent trend but it by no means indicates that ability to strike deep is gone. Defensively we tend to play them the way the article describes anyway but in the last game or two our CBs have given less of a cushion. My guess is that we'll play them much the same as we always have because it's been successful.

    We lose games to them because we don't score enough not because we don't limit their scoring. If we have an offense that can routinely put up 30 points a game then we need to show that again this week. If we do there's a good chance we can win the game.
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    The Bears' defense will show up against the Packers' offense with or without Brian Urlacher. That much is for certain. We also know that the Packers can't stop a good running attack, which the Bears undoubtedly have. The only reason we didn't rack up 150 yards on the ground against the Colts on Sunday was because we had so much success making "whoopie" with the pass that it really wasn't so necessary to run the ball a ton. I suspect that will change against the Packers, and that our offense stands a better chance of putting up more points on the Packers' defense than the 49ers since we have both a better running game and passing attack. That combination we have on offense to go along with our defense and special teams will ultimately be the reason we will win up in Green Bay this week.

    I will put it this way: if we lose to the Packers, it will be our own fault. It will be because Cutler threw a pick or two, the offensive line couldn't handle the pressure brought on by Clay Matthews, Jr., or our linebackers struggle defending the run and short passes. I'm not too worried about the run against the Packers as I doubt seriously that they'll even have 50 rushing yards the entire night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    The Bears' defense will show up against the Packers' offense with or without Brian Urlacher. That much is for certain. We also know that the Packers can't stop a good running attack, which the Bears undoubtedly have. The only reason we didn't rack up 150 yards on the ground against the Colts on Sunday was because we had so much success making "whoopie" with the pass that it really wasn't so necessary to run the ball a ton. I suspect that will change against the Packers, and that our offense stands a better chance of putting up more points on the Packers' defense than the 49ers since we have both a better running game and passing attack. That combination we have on offense to go along with our defense and special teams will ultimately be the reason we will win up in Green Bay this week.

    I will put it this way: if we lose to the Packers, it will be our own fault. It will be because Cutler threw a pick or two, the offensive line couldn't handle the pressure brought on by Clay Matthews, Jr., or our linebackers struggle defending the run and short passes.
    The joke's on you, because we also can't stop a good passing attack either! The Bears will start moving the ball so easily through the run and pass they'll get confused as to which they want to do and end up with multiple delay of game penalties and other miscues with players thinking they're going to run or pass. The Bears offense will then implode, causing the Packers to win the game.

    I'm not too worried about the run against the Packers as I doubt seriously that they'll even have 50 rushing yards the entire night.
    You do know now that you've said this, Rodgers will have like 650 yards rushing in this game by himself now, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evernight View Post
    The joke's on you, because we also can't stop a good passing attack either! The Bears will start moving the ball so easily through the run and pass they'll get confused as to which they want to do and end up with multiple delay of game penalties and other miscues with players thinking they're going to run or pass. The Bears offense will then implode, causing the Packers to win the game.



    You do know now that you've said this, Rodgers will have like 650 yards rushing in this game by himself now, right?
    Dude, you have to be the smartest and funniest Packers fan I have ever met! J/K!!!

    But yeah, you make good points. I didn't say much about the pass defense of the team mainly because the 49ers didn't really throw the ball much. That's what you get out of an old Mike Ditka disciple: he's going to throw the ball as little as is humanly possible.

    And since when did Rodgers turns into a wishbone quarterback? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    Dude, you have to be the smartest and funniest Packers fan I have ever met! J/K!!!

    But yeah, you make good points. I didn't say much about the pass defense of the team mainly because the 49ers didn't really throw the ball much. That's what you get out of an old Mike Ditka disciple: he's going to throw the ball as little as is humanly possible.

    And since when did Rodgers turns into a wishbone quarterback? LOL
    They threw it like 26 times, and pretty much every single one of those throws had a receiver wide fing open with no one covering them. I knew as soon as I saw Jarrett Bush was starting we were royally boned. If he starts this game, or another game this entire season I may actually cry. He's a great special teams player, HORRIBLE DB. Absolutely horrible. He couldn't cover a blind legless armless midget. And of all players, he's lined up across from Moss.

    We have some good young players on D that will develop, and some guys that shouldn't even be on the roster.

    Rodgers turns into a wishbone quarterback when our offensive line decides it doesn't need to block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evernight View Post
    They threw it like 26 times, and pretty much every single one of those throws had a receiver wide fing open with no one covering them. I knew as soon as I saw Jarrett Bush was starting we were royally boned. If he starts this game, or another game this entire season I may actually cry. He's a great special teams player, HORRIBLE DB. Absolutely horrible. He couldn't cover a blind legless armless midget. And of all players, he's lined up across from Moss.

    We have some good young players on D that will develop, and some guys that shouldn't even be on the roster.

    Rodgers turns into a wishbone quarterback when our offensive line decides it doesn't need to block.
    I don't know enough about the Packers defense outside of Charles Woodson (the son of a witch who stole the Heisman Trophy from Peyton Manning) and Tramon (sp?) Williams to say, but I can't believe how much that defense has fallen apart since the 2010 season. That 2010 defense was every bit as good as the Bears and maybe even a little better since it had some semblance of a pass rush. Our defense regressed last year mainly because it was left out on the field by an ineffective offense, but I really don't know what to make of the Packers defense. Did losing Cullen Jenkins hurt that much? You've still got Raji, Pickett, Matthews, and Hawk anchoring the front seven, but I also see that Bishop is on injured reserve according the Packers' website. What gives? Do you know?

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