Thread: I knew it

It doesn't matter what's going on behind closed doors, but the fact that this idiot/33rd best LT last year was given no real competition and just laughs at Cutler is giving Tice a black eye. I'm giving 3-4 more games to see how I feel about Tice as OC, but seeing as both games this season have had the same awful playcalling and protection that were problems last year, I'm not too happy with him; also his stance on the o-line is like Lovie's on Grossman years back...

Originally Posted by VJ18

you can continue to slob knob over at PSD but Cutler is flat out a mediocre QB. Im mean really when he had time to throw the ball did you see his passes? it was a down right joke. He buckles under pressure when the game is on the line, you dont win championships that way. PLAIN AND SIMPLE... we have rex grossman v2

also ive given him 4 years now to prove me something and its as usual, GARBAGE!

btw wheres your cutty song now?

I understand you are upset that we lost to our most disliked rival, however, Cutler wasn't allowed to get into a rhythm last night, unlike last week.

As far as "four years", Turner ran such a simplistic offense with average, at best, wrs and that was his first year in the system. When Rodgers stepped in, it wasn't his first year in that system, and He's had it his entire NFL career.

With Martz, he was unable to audible at all, even when the play was obviously not going to work, and I'm starting to assume you blame him for the NFCC loss a few years ago; fair enough, but a few passes to hester were dropped that could've/would've changed the outcome of that game. Also, don't forget that despite having new and horrible o-line personnel (omiyale and Webb) Martz repeatedly had him do 7 step drops that are largely outmoded in this league. Not to mention Martz is notorious for playcalling that relies too much on the pass (fun fact: as a coach for both the Bears and Lions, he presided over each team's lowest amount of rushing yards in a game in their entire history), again, with horrible WRs.

Ticek for the second straight game has had a pass heavy gameplan, with several drives starting with bad field position, exacerbated by bad line play.

Bottom line: If you're pointing at every bad game he's had as exclusively his fault, with disregard to a lack of quality personnel and gameplans that simply don't work, then you are just wanting to look for the flaws. Don't forget that he's done a lot with less while he's been here and has had many games other quarterbacks could not. Also, we're just 1-1, we have plenty of time left in this season. "Bury the rag away from your face, now's not the time for your tears" as the saying goes.

Originally Posted by Henry Burris

I understand you are upset that we lost to our most disliked rival, however, Cutler wasn't allowed to get into a rhythm last night, unlike last week.

As far as "four years", Turner ran such a simplistic offense with average, at best, wrs and that was his first year in the system. When Rodgers stepped in, it wasn't his first year in that system, and He's had it his entire NFL career.

With Martz, he was unable to audible at all, even when the play was obviously not going to work, and I'm starting to assume you blame him for the NFCC loss a few years ago; fair enough, but a few passes to hester were dropped that could've/would've changed the outcome of that game. Also, don't forget that despite having new and horrible o-line personnel (omiyale and Webb) Martz repeatedly had him do 7 step drops that are largely outmoded in this league. Not to mention Martz is notorious for playcalling that relies too much on the pass (fun fact: as a coach for both the Bears and Lions, he presided over each team's lowest amount of rushing yards in a game in their entire history), again, with horrible WRs.

Ticek for the second straight game has had a pass heavy gameplan, with several drives starting with bad field position, exacerbated by bad line play.

Bottom line: If you're pointing at every bad game he's had as exclusively his fault, with disregard to a lack of quality personnel and gameplans that simply don't work, then you are just wanting to look for the flaws. Don't forget that he's done a lot with less while he's been here and has had many games other quarterbacks could not. Also, we're just 1-1, we have plenty of time left in this season. "Bury the rag away from your face, now's not the time for your tears" as the saying goes.

Ok i see what your saying but go rewatch some game film, in the second half he was getting into r only to under throw passes, sit int he pocket instead of running to his right to by a little more time before Matthews got to him. Im sorry but Im done blaming al of the coaching decisions, they arent out of the field. Cutler is NOT A LEADER, im sorry but hes starting to prove that too me with the Good Jay bad Jay. Hell everyone outside of the bears see this and its starting to rattle in that HE WONT WIN THE BIG ONE!

as for the NFCC ive seen worse injuries to players that pulled through. You have your opinions and i have mine, Cutler is about to have a melt down in just week two, cant wait for the shit to really hit the fan in a few weeks. Maybe the coaching staff is an issue, i think we should have parted ways with lovie some time ago and brought in Cowher who i still see coming here next year. Just wait for it.

The game was a bad game brought on by the offense as a whole but Cutler needs to pull it it together, hes our face and needs to start proving it

Okay, if you remember, the docs kept him out of that game. It was not his decision. Yes, I am aware that he was making poor passes this past game, but he's not the only QB in the league to do that when the receivers are running horrible routes and the o-line acts as nothing more than a curtain to the defense.

Cutler IS a leader, you need a QB that has confidence in himself and is willing to put teammates that are playing horribly; you need a QB that stands up to the coaching staff( McMahon did it, and he's far inferior to Cutler) and you need a guy that can extend plays and doesn't go down without a fight. If you'll recall, the o-line was so bad at one he was trying to hike the ball and Garza wasn't paying attention. unacceptable.

I WILL agree fully on your last line, as I (and others, I think) voiced concern that Cutler was staring down receivers, even when the game was going well last week. This week, the line started playing like garbage, causing many 2nd, 3rd and longs. It took the coaching staff forever to decide that running the ball might be a good idea. Also, Cutler did have a bad game, and not excusing it, but the first two INTs were not his fault (one was a bad call by the refs, and the other Bennett was not where he was supposed to be). At the end of the game, when everyone, save Hester and the D did their worst, passing was the only option. I guess I'm just being optimistic, that this is a blip (like all QBs have) and even with a few more rough games sprinkled throughout the season, he'll put in his best year as a Bear, yet.

If anyone want to look for a place to lay some blame start with Tice and his poor game plan and unwillingness or inability to adjust. The routes Marshall ran weren't open most of the time but that meant something else was and it was never exploited. No screens to slow the rush. Those blitzes would have left holes underneath of behind the LBs but we didn't go there.

Now add to that bad execution, a couple of bad calls, a stupid penalty for retaliation that stopped a drive, a dropped pick, a missed TD opportunity, giving up a TD on a trick play, and pretty soon frustration builds. What I saw was an offense that knew it was beat in the third quarter and that's when I turned off the game. I think anyone would have been frustrated by that time. I know I was.

Bottom line is Tice and Lovie got out coached AGAIN.