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I would just add at what point is there a break. How much more beating should a qb take before you say. "ok enough, if you play (insert name) I"m not doing it". What are acceptable amount of hits or concussions before you become David Carr'ed.
When the entire left side plays like a matador your shell shocked and even if you do get time your mechanics suffer b/c you are habitualizing running for you life.
If Cwill doesn't play LG it defies all logic.
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics, even if you win your still messed up.
Restore the roar!
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Dagan81 
Soul, again, we disagree wholeheartedly. YOU DO NOT YELL AT AND THEN NAIL A TEAMMATE ON THE ARM WITH YOUR SHOULDER ON NATIONAL TELEVISION!!! That is not professional behavior, and the last time I checked, the NFL is in the realm of the professional world. It's inexcusable for a player to behave that way. As I've said at least three times now in at least two or three threads, you simply don't disrespect a teammate or a coach, even if you have a bone to pick with them, and you certainly don't do something like Cutler did to Martz and Webb in an area where the cameras can pick it up.
Dags, do you know why I posted that Peyton Manning-Jeff Saturday video? Because Peyton describes exactly what happened on the sideline. “Jeff said we need to be running the ball down there. And... I just snapped.” That's it. This is what teammates do. Frustration gets to everybody. Not everything is all holly-jolly around the world of professional sports. As much as it may be a game to many of you, these men take this very seriously. It's a job. Jay was frustrated and snapped. It happens, no big deal. It's just a big deal now because the media hates Cutler for whatever reason and won't stop writing about the “incident” on the sideline.
When we saw Brady snap at his o-line in the preseason or Peyton's rant at Saturday everyone said what great leaders and competitors they are. But when Cutler does it he is called a crybaby, whiny and a bad leader. And yet I bet if he had said or done nothing people would have been saying "Oh look Cutler doesn't care" and still call him a poor leader.
Jay was sacked 119 times (!) the last three years and never complained. Thursday's game was the final straw. Who can blame him? There is not a QB in the league that would want to play behind that line. I would love to see any other QB get sacked that many times and not blow up on his front line. You go to Chicago and play QB with no blockers and see how you react. It's not easy.
Don’t frown on Jay just because he doesn't smile as much as you'd like.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81 It is a big deal, bears. The NFL is part of the professional world. As with all professions, there is a certain code of conduct by which one should abide.
Are you serious? There are many players in the NFL who use drugs, sell drugs, beat up their moms and wifes, electrocute dogs and stab people to death. But it's unprofessional and inexcusable for a quarterback to yell at his offensive line because he's getting his ass kicked every Sunday? Sorry Dags, but this is bullshit.
As Chris Carter would say “C'mon Man”!
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Btw, I was looking for the Bears-Giants game on YouTube and here's the top comment of the video.
I'm not a Bears or Jay Cutler fan but how can you say this guy is weak and a pussy? This guy gets sacked more than any other Qb in the NFL and gets up everytime. Even non-Bears fans realize it's hard to be a QB in Chicago, especially with such a shitty oline year after year.
And here's what a Packer fan has to say about the incident last Thursday:
NFL.com: Did anyone see the game on Thursday? I'm a Packer fan and I have to say, NO ONE was able to help Cutler. I'd be screaming at my O line too after he allowed 3.5 sacks. Did Cutler scream at the other O line? No because they didn't allow 3.5 sacks from one guy. It was great seeing the Packers win, but you gotta have respect. It's not Cutler's fault. Did you guys see he went up to Brandon Marshall and patted him on the head as if to say, "Don't worry. We'll get it next time." That's positive encouragement.
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Originally Posted by
hail2daskins We're FINALLY doing it the right way now by brining in guys like Garcon.
You mean by overpaying a #2 receiver who is not a legitimate No.1 receiver?
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Criticism's like bein in the rain .... once you get wet , what's another drop ?
What should you call any : Fumble , Hold , Interception , Three and out , or Sack ?
A " F.H.I.T.S " ? or a J'Marcus ?
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Wouldn't bet on it JJ. I would have put the odds at someone picking up OMG at close to zero and he was picked up. Webb would probably go somewhere.
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JJ-30 Webb got his what 1.3 or 1.7 million don't remember for sure at any rate he got his money and no one is going to sign him once this deal done so I he just doesn't care. Why JA gave him that kind of money up front is beyond me.
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Originally Posted by
short faced bear I would just add at what point is there a break. How much more beating should a qb take before you say. "ok enough, if you play (insert name) I"m not doing it". What are acceptable amount of hits or concussions before you become David Carr'ed.
When the entire left side plays like a matador your shell shocked and even if you do get time your mechanics suffer b/c you are habitualizing running for you life.
If Cwill doesn't play LG it defies all logic.
This is EXACTLY what I think happened. And then Cutler handled it absolutely poorly from there and it spiraled and then the team picked up the vibes and EVERYONE started to play badly. Cutler can't behave that way. It affects the whole team. They need to get the guy some protection. Leaving the OL the way to was has been a worse problem than I thought it was going to be. I knew it was going to be bad, but not this bad.
Hopefully more game time will help.
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hail2daskins Gave away the future? The Skins front office did what they had to do. Just like the Bears did by over paying for Jeff George 2. Sometimes you have to overpay to get what you want. But see here's the difference between our organization and yours. Dan Snyder will go out and get a top free agent to make up for that first round draft pick. We're FINALLY doing it the right way now by brining in guys like Garcon. The Halas family is known for being cheap skates.
Yes we've been 2nd and 3rd tier but those days are over now. And btw...it's not like the Bears are some powerhouse and make the playoffs every year.
So the owner is new? I don't think so. Same owner, you'll also get same results. Look at the bright side you'll be getting a high draft pick AGAIN.
The passion of a few, to rule the many, that's Washington D.C.. Where else was that said before, about whom?
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09-15-2012, 06:42 PM #100
I wonder if people still think Grubbs or nicks would have made more sense then spending precious cap space on st bums
I know I'm crying over spilled milk but I've been complaining about the oline since 06. New gm and still waiting
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