Jay Cutler

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 09-17-2012, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Horse-shoe

Yep . Cutty has no character . It only took him 4 years to have 1 obvious dumb 'heat of the moment' incident - with the guy who might get him killed .

Yeah there's a cancer in the Bears locker room . But it isn't just 1 player - and it isn't just one 'coach' either .

So now not only does Jay have to deal with a double standard and the whipping boy labels - lets pile on and add scapegoat to the list .

Interesting how all of these articles came out at the same time .

I understand your points. Seriously, I do. But Cutler has to be smarter than this.

Maybe he should have kicked Spencer in the groin and spit on the other olinemen too.

But what does that get the team? Nowhere.

**4DaBERS** · 09-17-2012, 04:15 PM

My god, this is freaking nuts.

**4DaBERS** · 09-17-2012, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I understand your points. Seriously, I do. But Cutler has to be smarter than this.

Maybe he should have kicked Spencer in the groin and spit on the other olinemen too.

But what does that get the team? Nowhere.

Oh come on man, are you really going there? You are equating what Cutler did to kicking balls and spitting on them?

**Blue Horse-shoe** · 09-17-2012, 04:18 PM

Which one is the LEADER and which one is the LT ?

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 09-17-2012, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by 4DaBERS

99, come on, do not perpetuate the myth. I saw no pouting, I heard no whining. I saw a QB that eventually got sacked 7 FREAKIN TIMES, call out his laziest O-Linemen. Like many on here have referenced, some of the best, most heralded QB's in the game today have done exactly the same thing. I've seen Manning and Brady do it OFTEN! What is this double standard for this kid. Damn it, I hate the way this fan base and this Chicago media runs our QB's down. I still think Grossman could have been better if he were not run out of this town. Frankly, if this continues, it would not surprise me to see Cutler tell this team to go to hell when his contract is up.

I'll say it one more time: JAY CUTLER DID NOTHING WRONG; HIS O-LINE CONTINUES TO DO THINGS WRONG TIME AFTER TIME, AFTER TIME, AND HE'S GETS THE BLAME FOR YELLING AT THEM? Ya know, some times great leaders need to light fires. I think Patton used to do a little of that as well. he got in trouble too, but his men did what they needed to do. Show me a "leader" that DOESN'T, and I'll show you a leader that isn't really a leader. SHow me that guy and I'll show you a guy thats more concerned about being liked by his peers than winning.

KEEP AT IT JAY.

2 wrongs don't make a "right" in a situation like this. Of course the oline sucks. Heck, he could spit on them all. Maybe pee on one or two after failed drives too. Maybe "moon" Tice from the field.

But what does that do for getting the team to win?

The guy got a boatload of weapons this off-season, but didn't get everything he wanted. It sucks. But that's life. I wish it were different but this is what he has this season.

**Blue Horse-shoe** · 09-17-2012, 04:26 PM

Apparently ... this is what Jay SHOULD have done .

**MPBears68** · 09-17-2012, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by draw2anderson35

With the current pieces we have.... at this rate I'd love to see what Gabe Carimi has at LT. Bring Chris Williams back into play at LG where he was one of our best run blockers in 2011 (has the skills to pull unlike Spencer). Garza left at center. RG to Edwin Williams and RT to Lance Louis where he was in 2011 when Gabe went down.

lmfao

Sorry, Draw, but that isn't a serious proposal or "solution" one bit. First of all, they're not going to move Carimi nor should they. He lost most of his rookie year to injury and moving him now would trash his development just like they did with CW years ago. Secondly, Louis can't play RT. He's a stopgap there at best and it showed last year. Once teams figured him out he got schooled there game after game late last season. Thirdly, you're really proposing to simultaneously change FOUR positions on the line on the fly? Come on, lmfao.

Look, I undertsand everyone's frustration with Webb, Jay's too. He sucks and nothing up till now has lit a fire under him to step up his game to a level of acceptability. Other than maybe Mr. Bag-o-dicks, everyone is sick of him and wants him outta here. But, get serious...

There's only 3 realistic options here (until next offseason):

A) Keep Webb at LT and "manage" him with better playcalling and near-constant TE help vs. 1st rate competition. This would allow CW to play LG.
B) Put CW @ LT and Rachal @ LG. Sounds great. Except neither of them could win either job in PS.
C) Put Scott @ LT once he's learned the line calls and had sufficient practice. Looks pretty ugly there too since he's failed before as well.

As you can see, there are no good options for replacing Webb and that is a major part of the problem as far as his focus and dedication to improvement goes.

**Blue Horse-shoe** · 09-17-2012, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

2 wrongs don't make a "right" in a situation like this. Of course the oline sucks. Heck, he could spit on them all. Maybe pee on one or two after failed drives too. Maybe "moon" Tice from the field.

But what does that do for getting the team to win?

The guy got a boatload of weapons this off-season, but didn't get everything he wanted. It sucks. But that's life. I wish it were different but this is what he has this season.

But this is not a LOGICAL REACTION . So be a phony Jay , and put on your happy face .

**Blue Horse-shoe** · 09-17-2012, 04:41 PM

Well this settles it . It's ALL Jay Cutlers fault . His and his alone . The is no OTHER way to look at it . Period . End of story .

( And the press ISN'T ambushing 1 guy . Nope . No way )

**Blue Horse-shoe** · 09-17-2012, 04:51 PM

Nah ..... we'll trade Cutler and keep Webb ( and Lovie ).

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