Thread: Jay Cutler

Originally Posted by yttocs

So when has JC had a 4500 yard year in chicago? If his numbers haven't changed, I missed something. His SACKS are also SAME the right? His OL gave up as many sacks in ONE year as he has in THREE in denver, you don't call that a change? REALLY
Itenet is slow/ stopped.. Your saying JC has had the same equal OL and WR in Chicago? I WONDER WHY JC STATS ARE LOWER? HMMMMMM ( I left out gameplanning in this)

way to not answer the question. I udnerstand you can't but at least admit it and move on. JC is part of the problem. Sorry you don't like hearing it, but it's true, he has to be better and if he needs the 90's dallas OL to do it, well he's SOL..much like Rex was.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

way to not answer the question. I udnerstand you can't but at least admit it and move on. JC is part of the problem. Sorry you don't like hearing it, but it's true, he has to be better and if he needs the 90's dallas OL to do it, well he's SOL..much like Rex was.

ASK THE QUESTION, You said his numbers haven't changed, yet they have. Accept it.

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SACKS are up , yards are down, top receiver catches are down from his time in Denver. How are the numbers the same as you claim?

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

Yttoc, I'm not saying he hasn't had help; but it's this dismisal of any fault of JC that is baffeling. Again his #'s have not gone up or down that much since his time in Denver why is that? Stop blaming the entire issue on the OL, WR's, and coaches when it also has to do w/Jay.

As you said his Numbers haven't gone up or down, HMMM ,yes that have down, OL sacks are UP, Your the one not answering the question, just putting you hate out. You again said numbers haven't changed but added some NOW, but have addressed the negatives to JC. If you JUST hate JC, fine just STATE it, that you hate JC and no matter what , thats where you stand ALWAYS. For thats what i'm taking it as. Is JC perfect, NO. Does he have a perfect scheme, for him NO.

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YES JC is PART of the PROBLEM, the problem NO !

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BED TIME, reply tomorrow, IF needed.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

....from the article quickly getting buried by the deniers....


The problem with Jay Cutler’s clunker of a game is that it happens way too frequently, regardless of what’s around him.
Last night was the fifth time Cutler’s quarterback rating finished under 40 since he was traded to the Bears prior to the 2009 season; a period that includes 45 starts (2 in playoffs). One in nine games isn’t bad, right?

Try this – in that same time Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan and Matt Schaub all haven’t had one game with a rating under 40. Furthermore, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers and even the often criticized Tony Romo and Michael Vick’s have had just one. Matthew Stafford has had two in that time (often injured but both in rookie season) and Joe Flacco has put up under-40 duds four times (twice in the 2009 playoffs).What about if you move the number up to 50, are some of these guys just barely escaping the horrendous numbers Cutler accumulates?
No. It gets worse.
Since the 2009 season Peyton Manning, Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, and Schaub haven’t had an under-50 quarterback rating in a regular season game while both Brady and Roethlisberger each put up an under-50 effort in the AFC Playoffs over the past 3+ seasons.
Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan and Michael Vick have each had just one such outing since 2009 (Vick didn’t start in Philadelphia until 2010) and Eli Manning and Tony Romo have each had two such performances in that stretch (note – Romo only had 2 pass attempts in one of his).
Matt Stafford and Joe Flacco have had 6 such outings in that time but it should be noted that five of Stafford’s came in his rookie season while four of Flacco’s came in just his second year in the NFL.
Where does Cutler fall in?
Keep going.
Since Jay Cutler was traded to the Bears in 2009 he has had 9 games his quarterback rating has failed to reach 50. That number is equal to how many under-50 rating games Peyton Manning (0), Tom Brady (1), Drew Brees (0), Ben Roethlisberger (1), Matt Ryan (1), Aaron Rodgers (1), Matt Schaub (1), Eli Manning (2) and Tony Romo (2) have combined to have.

Again yes the OL and WR and HC's are part of the problem....but they are not the sole problem. As BiH pointed out, even as bad as the OL has been, Cutler has had more pressure free pass attempts then Rodgers and Ben, and as stated they have both been sacked more then him; so the idea that he is always under duress compared to them is also false.

JC just needs his bad games to be better then they are. When he is on he is in elite company; but when he is off, he is well below elite, some of that will come from a better OL and better WR's, but some of that has to come from Jay being better.

Have to point out the haters......

So the Qb is suppost to be GREAT, with bad gameplan, adjustments, WR's and of course REALLY bad OL, gotta ya. Some posters are just HATERS. GN

Statistics dont lie - but are they including every factor that contributes to this ? Hurries , poor route running , drops , down distance situations , who has the lead , whats the weather like , whos playing behind a makeshift line , how dinged up are the linemen , how well is his D playing , how are the punters doing , who has better field position , whos teams linemen are getting penalties called at the worst possible moment ? Whos o-lines are better , whos defenses are better , who has good corners who has good ends who has good blitz packages with guys who actually know when to blitz ....and get thru .... whos dline is playing better ... how windy is it ? How cold is it . whos coaching staffs are making the better in game adjustments whos arent .. whos dropping good passes who isnt .... whos rb's are hitting the hole whos rbs are finding the hole ... whos TE can get open and catch the ball whos TE acts like he wants to catch the ball but is always conveniently a couple steps so getting there .. whos breaking tackles who isnt .... which line is getting away with holding more .. whos slipping most downfield who cant catch anything in the middle of the field cuz he hears foot steps .. blah blah blah bla

ITSALL JC'S FAULT ...... Y ? - BECAUSE I FKN SAY SO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!