Thread: Jay Cutler

Originally Posted by Dagan81

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Soul, that top highlighted line has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read from you on here. Of course Cutler was a large part of the reason we lost last night. I can think of plenty of times where, like JD said, he managed to scramble around, have some space to pass the ball, only to float one up that got intercepted. While I think two of those interceptions last night were unfortunate (one that should NOT have been intercepted due to Williams not having control of the football, the other that Bennett failed to run back and catch due to bad mechanics), the one to Woodson and apparently the fourth one that Cutler had after I turned the game off were just ugly. He had plenty of time to throw those balls once he got of the pocket, planted his feet, and could just throw, but he either let the ball sail, didn't find the right target who was open and threw into double coverage, or he under threw the ball. Anyone who believes otherwise must be smoking crack cocaine or something. Cutler could have at least managed the game enough to where we could have gotten a couple of more field goals and maybe a touchdown.

Now, onto the second point I highlighted. Arizona and Cleveland may have terrible quarterbacks, but I guarantee that they don't go out of their way to embarrass teammates on national TV or in the newspapers just for the hell of doing so. It's not good to not show support for your teammates no matter what happens, but that being said, Cutler is a horrible teammate. We really shouldn't be surprised at his lack of respect to players and coaches judging by what he said to Mike Martz while playing the Vikings at Soldier Field last season on Sunday Night Football. Anyone who says, "Fuck you," to a coach, no matter the situation, has no regard for others around him. If he wanted to make a point to Webb and the receivers for not getting open, he should have waited and done so behind closed doors. Cutler made himself look like shit, and frankly, he reminds me of Jeff George -- George could get his team to the playoffs occasionally, but his contentious relationships with fellow teammates and coaches ultimately cost his team wins in key situations.

Dags just open your beer and your bag of chips and grab the remote. You're full of shit too. You lost me when you compared Cutler to George. By the time any of that shit happened your talking about the game was already lost and I've posted an entire library of reasons why.

If you guys want to hang a bad game plan and horrible execution by the line on Cutler go ahead. If it was me I'd have pretty much had a case of the "fuckits" by the 4th quarter too. Do I think he should pout less and get in someone's face about? Your damn right I do and that's not unprofessional. It's being a fucking leader which to a point he's not doing as well as he needs to.

When your guys don't do there job it's his job to get on their ass about it and it's his job to go top his coach when the plays he's getting aren't working and work out some adjustments not sit on the bench with his arms folded. So if you want to nail him for that go ahead but not for getting in someone's face right after he had probably told the guy to keep Matthews off him. He had 2nd and 22, they new he was gonna pass, and he knew Matthews would be coming with all that he had. You don't think he might have mentioned that to Webb before the play? So what happens? Two seconds after the snap Matthews nails him. Webb never even slowed him down.

I watched Jay Cutler pass for over 4000 yards in Denver and make the Pro Bowl his second year in the league. Why? Because he had the pass protection to do it. This is the start of his fourth year in Chicago and in all this time we've never given him that protection. Wouldn't you be a little frustrated with by now too? What did you want him to do give Webb a big hug and a fucking taco and say we'll get him next time. Two drive killers in a row when he had the team moving?

For crap sake Dags get real. These are pros. This isn't Pop Warner and there isn't time for coddling oafs like Webb who can't do what they're asked to do in crunch time. Either Tice needs to get some better schemes or teach his guys how to block the ones he has because the Packers just eat them alive and if we're gonna win a championships THAT'S the team we need to beat so THAT'S why people are as upset as they are.

If you want to learn more about why go read the rest of my posts.

Originally Posted by Rogelio

Bull. When Cutler bumped Webb, you could tell that Webb was blowing him off and not looking at him. So, this lazy piece of crap has collected paychecks for three years based solely on the fact that he's large. The coaches have tried to get through to him, Jay has tried to get through to him, and nothing has worked. And now that QB is putting his ass on the line, getting killed out there, and fucking Baby Huey is still smiling about it. "Duhhh, I missed a block coach. Oh well." I think Cutler was far angrier about Webb not giving a shit than he was about Webb continually missing blocks.

And how many more concussions is he going to be able to take b4 some doctor tells him ..... " Uh you might want to quit while you're still ahead so ur not drooling out the side of ur mouth all day long starting 5 years from now ".

Or maybe a knee gets blown out forever on another blown assignment .

And all cuz someone thinks he can make The J'Farcus Experiment work - and pussy tight ends who aren't real fb players but have the coaching staff enamored with their 'potential' ( nevermind that it hardly ever seems to translate to actual results on game day ).

I can just see the headline now : Cutler Career Over - Inept Linemen Finally Do Talented QB In

When JC hit webb with a shoulder, maybe all he was saying was, BABY STEPS, just try putting a shoulder into him. Then the next series we'll improve on it. Webb embarrassed himself with his play.

Reading this thread gives me a headache.

1) I give it two weeks before the redskins guy is banned, and that's being very liberal

2) J'marcus webb is gonna bounce back and have good games, but Jay has every right to rip into him. He talked like normal to Marshall about his drop, because Marshall is a good ball player and has proven himself. Webb hasn't proven anything, other than his rare good play.

3) Hyperbole is in the air around here. Cutler had a bad game, the line had a bad game, but no one noticed how good the d-line was, and very few (other than myself) noticed Cutler non-stop staring down marshall against the Colts. It's all about the emotion attached to the game. But it's just a game, that's all. No reason to stay angry about it, or let it change your behavior. Just try to analyze without thinking with your heart, and you'll probably come up with better conclusions on the outcome of the game.

I thought that Cutlers yelling at Webb was justified and I know a few of you thought it wasn't. Here is a perspective that doesn't agree with mine but gets me thinking.


Bruschi: Cutler owes Webb, OL an apology

September, 14, 2012 Sep 14
5:06
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By Staff | ESPNChicago.com

• Jonathan Daniel/Getty ImagesTedy Bruschi said the Bears' problems may lie at the feet of management.

Three-time Super Bowl champion Tedy Bruschi said Friday that Jay Cutler owes J'Marcus Webb and the Chicago Bears' offensive line a public apology after Cutler publicly screamed at and bumped into Webb during a loss Thursday in Green Bay.

"I don't even think it's a big thing that he bumped him or he pushed him," Bruschi said on "The Scott Van Pelt Show" on ESPN Radio. "The big thing was about when he chose to get on J'Marcus Webb, and the difference between when Aaron Rodgers chose to get on (James) Jones, the wide receiver.

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"Now J'Marcus Webb, all he did was get beat physically. He was in the right place, he did his best to block Clay Matthews, and he got beat. Clay Matthews got the sack on Jay Cutler. Clay Matthews has beaten many offensive tackles who are a lot better than J'Marcus Webb. So when you get on somebody and embarrass somebody on national TV for getting beat physically, it's almost like you're kicking a man when he's down. Ok, yes, you lost. He's just not better than Clay Matthews. Clay Matthews was better than him on that play. There's nothing you can do. There's no scheme or anything. It was one man against another, and you lose. You kick him when he's down, it's not the right thing to do.


"James Jones made a mental error. ... That's when you can get on players. That's when you can get in their grill because they made a poor decision. That justifies any type of criticism you can give them on national TV or not."

Bruschi said Cutler needs to make amends.

"To tell you the truth, this has to be made right, somehow someway," Bruschi said. "Jay Cutler -- I think publicly -- has to acknowledge the error of his ways and apologize to the entire offensive line. Because you just didn't pick on one member of the offensive line ... offensive linemen will tell you, they are five guys playing at one time, but they are all linked. That's the most solid positional group on the football field. They eat together, meet together and spend so much time together, and when you pick on one of their own, they take it personally."

Cutler threw four interceptions and was sacked seven times in the loss. ESPN Stats & Info revealed he was under duress 43 percent of the time when dropped back to pass. And that's been a pattern for Cutler, who's been one of the most sacked quarterbacks in the league since joining the Bears in 2009.

"(Cutler's frustration was) understandable, but you just don't take it out on your teammates, because what I see and what I saw was the offensive line still doing everything they could," Bruschi said. "They're not that good. Let's just say that, they're not that good, but they're doing everything they can.

"If the players in front of Cutler aren't that good, whose fault is that? Now we go to management, now we go to the scouting department, now we go to the head coach. That's the lineup they choose to put out there and you have to go with what they give you as a leader and you have to make that group as good as they possibly can be. And the way you do that is sometimes when someone doesn't have the greatest of skill, get them on your side, give them motivation to play for you because you know you'll put it all on the line with them too."