Gould: Incident could unify, define Bears season

**MPBears68** · 09-19-2012, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

My gut feeling is that the team will be so fired up over the Packers debacle, that they will destroy the Rams. I mean absolutely blow them out.

Look for Tice to call a better game & consequently look for Cutler to put on a clinic.

I hope you're right, buddy. I hope the team is fired up in a good way and I hope Webb especially is determined to redeem himself. Jay has some redemption work to do too. I don't need to see "a clinic" but how about just a good solid performance. Be really nice to put together a well executed 80 yard TD drive and see Cutler going to the sideline smacking Webb in a good way...like "good work out there".

I really, really want to see improvement from Tice. His performance was inexcusibly pathetic last week. Let's see some good balance, a sharp short passing game (we have never been good at that for some strange reason), and some imaginative playcalls. A few designed rollouts would be nice. Couple plays to get the ball to Hester in space. How about a quick WR screen with Bennett picking/blocking to give Marsh or AJ a chance to beat a tackler one-on-one and turn a 2 yd catch into a 10 yd one. 40+ yard bombs make the highlight reel but these little things win games against a good secondary and they make the bombs more likely to be successful. TICE MUST BE BETTER.

**MPBears68** · 09-19-2012, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

It could unify, or pull apart. For the season sake, it better unify. It could also do nothing b/c the team just expects JC to do this crap.

I have no belief that this team can blow out St Louis, they aren't a good team, but they aren't bad either. I don't know that they could blow them out w/or w/out being fired up.

Tice just needs to stop worrying about showing the world that the Bears can now pass, and call the plays that will win the game. He tried to make GB a statement; unfortunately the wrong one was made.

Exactly, Ric, well said. The "highlight reel" plays will come in due course.

**MPBears68** · 09-19-2012, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

Ric, this has had me baffled all week long. I can't get it out of my mind. Why on earth would Tice call such a stupid game? Really. It's almost like something Martz would pull. Crazy stuff. Crazy as a pet coon.

All we heard from Tice since the draft was how he was going to help this oline with play calling. Then he loses his mind last Thursday. I'm stunned. Nobody in their right mind would call the game Mike Tice called Thursday. Nobody man.

What the heck was his thinking? It's like once we make a guy our OC and he turns into a lunatic. Now we have "Mad Mike" Tice -- instead of "Mad Mike Martz"...

You and me and a million other armchair fans were left wondering the same thing, JABF. The Packers were beatable last Thursday and the D more than did its job in keeping their O from blowing it open. Wiser, less "go for broke", playcalling and we probably go into half in a 10-10 tie (even with the fake FG gash). Anybody's game at that point and we were receiving KO to start the 3rd. I think we all would have been OK with playing that kind of solid game and coming up short 24-23 or something. Disappointed but not discouraged and disgusted like we all ended up. Tice really f'd up bad and got totally out-thought all game long.

This is just my own psychological speculation but I think Tice let his heart get ahead of his brain there. He and Cutty have these "new toys" and made the highlight reel with Marshall and that bomb to AJ the week before. Last several years we were clearly (embarassingly) light-years behind the Packers in offensive weapons/explosiveness and suddenly we were not. He wanted to put on a "coming out party" show for the pass attack on national TV. But got totally out-smarted, out-strategized by Dom Capers and then wasted possession after possession sticking with a failing plan. Tice basically got all macho-stupid and slapped his dick on the table when he should have been thinking with his brain.

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 09-19-2012, 01:27 PM

MP, I think that "psychological speculation" is probably an accurate description of what happened. At least that makes sense.

In these situations, I wish Lovie would reign in his coordinators BEFORE the game is lost. I realize Lovie gives total control to his coordinators. But in situations like this where the game is being lost, a head coach HAS to make adjustments or you end up with a senseless loss - and in this particular case you embarrass the team.

**BearStuff** · 09-19-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

MP, I think that "psychological speculation" is probably an accurate description of what happened. At least that makes sense.

In these situations, I wish Lovie would reign in his coordinators BEFORE the game is lost. I realize Lovie gives total control to his coordinators. But in situations like this where the game is being lost, a head coach HAS to make adjustments or you end up with a senseless loss - and in this particular case you embarrass the team.

Agreed.

Just for giggles, let's pay attention to something (spawned by your post) that would imply the opposite. This sort of "sticking with the gameplan for the gameplan's sake" (offensive or defensive) has been a common theme throughout Lovie's tenure (despite multiple OC's & DC's). At some point you have to wonder if Lovie is truly turning over the gameplanning/play calling to the coordinators. Right? Maybe Lovie does make calls himself but leaves the world with the impression that he is the type of leader who delegates. Interesting thought, considering the way that he is always trying to be stealth with injuries and who is and isn't in his doghouse (or going to start/play).

**BearStuff** · 09-19-2012, 01:37 PM

After posting that, I just called myself a conspiracy theorist, lol.

**GermansbombedPH** · 09-19-2012, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

ARodgers has a sb ring; and is considered one of the best qb's in the league; that affords you a lot of leeway; and like PF said, one guy made a mental lapse; the other is just not good enough to be out there.

Again, Cutler has a 4 td 1 int game; this blows over after 1 day tops. It was his 1 td 4int game that made this look worse. When your pissing your pants on the field it doesn't look good when you then dress down a player that isn't capable of doing better.

Cutler had a bad day, but you have seen that nobody was open and he never had time to do anything. Cutler has to get some blame too, but it's Webb, Spencer and coaching that was the mess

**Riczaj01** · 09-19-2012, 02:51 PM

Cutler was a mess, as well as the OL and the OC no doubt. But people were open, during that scramble in the fourth he had Jefferies wide open for a TD. Problem was he was rattled and wasn't looking for more then 1 guy.
Actually he had that problem against Indy too, but got away with it(few dropped ints on indy's part)
He has to be smarter w/the ball.

**motownbear** · 09-19-2012, 03:22 PM

lets hope this fires up the team like it did that year mike brown took it publicly criticizing the team

**Henry Burris** · 09-19-2012, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

Cutler was a mess, as well as the OL and the OC no doubt. But people were open, during that scramble in the fourth he had Jefferies wide open for a TD. Problem was he was rattled and wasn't looking for more then 1 guy.
Actually he had that problem against Indy too, but got away with it(few dropped ints on indy's part)
He has to be smarter w/the ball.

Very few were saying that after the Indy game, and it makes me wonder if having a legit no.1 in chicago has f'd up his checkdown ability, somehow

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