Yes, thanks to LT1 now the LT2 gets paid. Well unless, that is, they suck.*
Isn't that close to how we got started into "The Blind Side" theory?
1 = Lawrence "Statutory" Taylor
2 = Left Tackle
* = The Bear's very own J'Marcus Webb
Wow. Exponents. A-11, you are like the football Einstein. I think you may have uncovered the Exponential Webb Suck Theory.
Originally Posted by A-11
Hmmm, I would think most OLineman actually play at a top level a little longer. The speed rushers are the guys who make all the dough and a lot of them a "tweener" rush backers these days as well as DEs. Once that quick first step and speed off the edge are gone they lose whatever edge they have over an OT who outweighs them by 50lbs or more. The OLineman can rely more on experience and raw strength mixed with really good technique. Gotta know how to hold more without getting caught as they get older. LOL
Originally Posted by Riczaj01
Curious but it could be true. There's sure more glamour and recognition in being a DT or a DE than an OG or an OT but the money isn't all that much different for top guys. Still, fans have a much better memory for whoever made the sack than for the guy who gave it up. Everyone but us of course. :bah:
Here's the 2012 Franchise Tag figures Ric.
NFL Free Agency 2012 - Franchise-Tag Values by Position
Thu, 02/23/2012 - 09:28 — admin
NFL Free Agency 2012
Franchise-Tag values by Position
Figures for next season by position and top players who could be impacted. NFL Free Agency begins March 13 - Teams must be under the salary cap by this date.
Quarterback: $14.4 million (down from $16.1 million in 2011, $16.4 million in 2010)
Players - Drew Brees, Matt Flynn
Running back: $7.7 million (down from $9.6 million in 2011, $8.2 million in 2010)
Players - Matt Forte, Ray Rice
Wide receiver: $9.4 million (down from 11.4 million in 2011, $9.5 million in 2010)
Players - Dwayne Bowe, DeSean Jackson, Vincent Jackson*, Steve Johnson, Mario Manningham, Wes Welker
Tight end: $5.4 million (down from $7.3 million in 2011, $5.9 million in 2010)
Players - Fred Davis, Jermichael Finley
Offensive line: $9.4 million (down from $10.1 million in 2011, $10.7 million in 2010)
Players - Ben Grubbs, Carl Nicks
Defensive end: $10.6 million (down from $13 million in 2011, $12.4 million in 2010)
Players - Cliff Avril, Calais Campbell, Jason Jones, Mario Williams*, Robert Mathis
Defensive tackle: $7.9 million (down from $12.5 million in 2011. $7 million in 2010)
Players - Red Bryant, Paul Soliai*
Linebacker: $8.8 million (down from $10.1 million in 2011, $9.7 million in 2010)
Players - Stephen Tulloch
Cornerback: $10.6 million (down from $13.5 million in 2011; tag was $9.6 million in 2010)
Players - Cortland Finnegan, Brent Grimes, Brandon Carr, Aaron Ross, Tracy Porter
Safety: $6.2 million (down from $8.8 million in 2011, $6.5 million in 2010)
Players - LaRon Landry, Tyonn Branch, Deshon Goldson
* Player who'd receive more money because it'd be his second year in a row on the franchise tag, meaning he'd make 120 percent of his 2011 salary
So on average a top OLineman (the tag doesn't differentiate between OTs and OGs) earns a little more than a DT and a little less than a DE. I believe that top OGs actually earn less than that on average but top OTs earn more.
I don't know of any published source which has figures for what the averages are for each position but that doesn't mean it's not out there somewhere just because I haven't found it yet brother.
My guess is that on average most OTs and DEs are fairly close to one another although I'd also bet that on average DTs make more than OGs.
That one draws a lot of attention around here doesn't it Zel? :rofl2:
Originally Posted by Zelezo Vlk
If Webb plays all season I'm coming up with a new term for just his. I'm gonna start calling them "Ogre Whiffs". :lol-027:
Clady would be cheaper but now that Manning is in Denver I think you may be right Rog. There's less likelihood he'll be pulled away from what looks like what could be a very good team. As long as they'll pay him they'll probably keep him.
Originally Posted by Rogelio
Long won't come cheap but I gotta think he wants out of that mess. Their owner is an idiot and GM Jeff Ireland is about to get fired so it's a major league cluster fuck down there and it's not gonna change soon. A team like the Bears with franchise QB who needs protecting and Super Bowl potential if they do might be right up his alley if Emery and the money guys are willing to pay the freight.
Something tells me that they are. Whatever they don't spend on a LT to protect him they're gonna need to spend extra paying Jay anyway just to stick around as Clay Matthews and Jared Allen's personal tackling dummies if they don't.
This year they got him his big WRs but if he can't stay upright he can't use them. We locked down Forte and Bush for four years. The TE spot has some decent talent if they start to use it and the right side of the line is looking like it's on the upswing so what else is there to do on the offensive side of the ball but fix LT?
It's hard to tell much about LG when Webb is so atrocious and if we extend his deal or re-sign him after we find out what he's being offered in FA we do know that CWill is a capable LG. Put Long next to him and even Rachal may look good.
As crazy as it may sound when I look over that offensive roster I really do feel that we're just one player and just a little more experience of playing together to round off the sharp corners away from really having a powerful offense. And that one player is a LT who can pass block his ass off.
Take Matthews sacks and all the other pressure and sacks Cutler got in the Packer game away and then what happens? He completes a few more passes doesn't throw those picks the Pack doesn't get three or four more shots at our defense with great field position?
As badly as we played offensively as usual the defense kept us close enough to win if we'd have scored another ten points instead of giving up another ten points.
We've all heard that old saying; "for want of a nail a shoe was lost, for want of a shoe a horse was lost, for want of a horse a battle was lost, etc.", right? Well for want of a LT a game was lost and there will be many more lost until we get one. If we can't draft one then God damn it BUY ONE!!!!