Thread: anyone watching MNF?

I loved seeing the packers get screwed. Kinda eased the sting from our loss.

Originally Posted by Wolfman

The call was fine...I have zero problem with it being ruled a simultaneous catch...to be sure, Jennings was in the better position to make the catch, but Tate had his hands on the ball at the point of contact with Jennings and stayed with it to the ground...an usual and freak play, but a fair and understandable ruling...

This idea that the regular Refs would have never made that call is complete BS...

The play, the call and the fan/media reaction reminds me whole lot of the Calvin Johnson non-catch/non-TD TD catch...what looks like something in the NFL isn't always what it is...

I agree completely wolfman. The media talking heads are talking about this like it was a slam dunk decision. Now, when you witness the play with your own eyes, it DOES look more like an INT, however, the NFL rules on simultaneous catches apply here, making this a much more difficult ruling. I believe there is at least an even chance that a regular officiating crew would have called it the same way. Gruden kept arguing that Jennings brought the ball to his chest in the air and therefore had possession. Well, there was one thing between Jennings chest and the ball Jon, and that was Tate's left hand, with his right hand also on it, then off it, then on it again. Clear possession by Jennings did not occur until they hit the ground, but the NFL rules state (as explained by the 27 year NFL Ref between Tirico and Gruden) that possession during a simultaneous catch cannot be decided after the fact by taking the ball away from the other and that possession for a simultaneous catch is given to the passing team.

Well, much like "The Catch" between Detroit and Chicago as Wolfman points out, sometimes the rules contradict what we think it should be watching with our own eyes.

I'm not saying the official was right or wrong, but I am saying that this was a much closer call than the sports media is making it out to be and the media Packer Love is growing this story much larger than it would be for any other team.

I also agree with the sentiment above that the Packers "acted classy" . Hell Jon Gruden was all about how the Packers and Mike McCarthey did a "Classy Solid" by coming back out onto the field for the extra point. WHAT?! It was classless for them to run off the field immediately, pouting the whole way in. They knew, and every other team knows that the extra point must be done at the end after a touchdown. If this had been the Bears or any other team that Gruden didn't "admire", he would have been slamming them for running off the field before the game was over, especially if they were lead off the field by a "schmuck" like Jay Cutler instead of the venerable Aaron Rodgers. Gimme a break.

My bad. I was like "wtf does this really have to do with the officiating?" On another note, WTF is with the press and, really, everyone making this out to be bigger than it is? It's just a game. I understand packer fans' anger (they're wrong, but I understand it), but you would think there is nothing more important in the world going on, like say, riots in foreign countries aimed at us, or the election of our country's leader. I did NOT like some of the calls against the Bears in the Packers game, but anyone who thinks they, and not Jay/o-line/tice cost us the game is nuts. The only "angle" the media has that makes this an issue, to me at least, is this:

But I've got some Internet photos in front of me that should remind him of a different, much more frightening possibility.
In one of the photos, Shannon Eastin, a replacement who is the league's first female official, is sitting behind a pile of chips while competing in the 2007 World Series of Poker. Lovely. Somebody making decisions that affect the outcome of NFL games is a gambler.


In another photo, replacement Brian Stroplo is wearing New Orleans Saints gear. The NFL pulled him from the rotation after seeing these photos, but the guy had already officiated one game, and how would you like to be a Saints opponent penalized by a guy shouting "Who Dat?"

To me, the only game ever reall f'd up by the officials was the Seahawks Steelers SB. Maybe the Cowboys Colts, because of a badly called fumble in the end zone, but with the technology they had back then, and it being in a pile up...

Plus the Seahawks allowed the fewest points going into that game. Play like you're looking ahead, and look what happens...