Thread: SI: NFL's "Get it right'' approach is desperately needed now

Well, since they are accumulating a body of work you scout the replacement refs. Most teams have a general sense of how some of the regulars call games.

Originally Posted by Shark86x

Seriously, though, the regular refs make bad calls too. the only reason this one is getting so much attention is because it was at the end of the game. In the middle, yeah, people would complain, but not like this. There were plenty of missed calls - both ways - in this game. PI, holding, personal fouls. In the end, one call doesn't matter. It's just that it was as time expired and changed the score. Call the hold on GB and there goes that touchdown, Seattle has the lead at the end and there's no hail mary. Seattle wins.

There are myriad ways to look at the entire game. GB had 87 yards the first half. THAT's why they lost. Seattle had 8 sacks in the first half, THAT's why they won.

We as fans look at it with emotion. I hate the packers from way back. I'm happy karma finally paid off. Was it a bad call? I don't know, the replay seems to show both guys with a hand - at least - on the ball when they land. In the end, The call was made. The play was reviewed. per the rules. the call stands. They got it right. I like it. Packers fans hate it. Announcers LOVE it. They get to bitch and moan and cry for Rodgers and pretend they hate it.

I can accept the karma thing Shark. The Packers have benefited from dozens of "homer" calls over the years many of which I've witnessed but was it still a bad call? Hell yes it was. It wasn't a simultaneous possession so the refs applied wrong ruling and that was made plain and simple in ever replay I've watched.

The fact that it wasn't over turned by the replay official is crazy but it's not a big mystery to me. The NFL is going to whatever lengths they can to try and sell those jokers to us and legitimize as many calls as they can without over turning them. You heard the threats against the coaches made publicly but no one heard the rest of the plan. Do not undermine these guys or their calls. Over turn as few as possible.

When even the opposing players are admitting that it was the wrong call then I think we can all accept that it was. Not much point in beating up the refs any longer. If this game and several other I actually was able to watch this weekend didn't prove that they are way over their heads in every respect nothing will.

The NFL owners and their well paid hand puppet Roger Goodell are a joke and a laughing stock on national TV. I will watch every game I can as long as it's freebee but I won't contribute one nickel to their "product" until the make it athletic competition again rather than simple a source of money making entertainment.

It isn't even about the money this time. It's just about winning another round of negotiations at all cost.

Originally Posted by Wolfman

That's what everyone keeps saying and accepting as fact...kinda like how the games are supposedly way longer (I believed it too)...problem is, it's really not true...I crunched the numbers this morning...the average game length is only up about 9 minutes over last year at this point...with twice as many OT games to boot - 8 compared to only 4 though week 3 last year....if you throw out those OT games, things are really that bad/difference time wise...

Maybe there have been a lot more missed/blown calls...maybe not...

Wolf if you believe that your not watching enough games. And as for delays. You're only counting the actual length of the game. Time the length of the broadcasts.

The total time consumed by the refs and replay officials deciding what we could all see regarding Finnegan's non-fumble from just one view of the replay was over 15 minutes just for that one play.

Once it was determined that the ground caused the fumble the play was dead right then and there. They had no need to review Hester's recovery and whether or not he fumbled when he went down. It was a moot point. But they reviewed the whole sequence anyway.

They simply don't know the rules and how to correctly interpret them and it is slowing down games.

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

What are teams going to do when the regular officials come back and make mistakes? My opinion is that these officials are human and they are making mistakes yet I can recall several times when the bears have lost the officials made some turd like calls. I remember 2 years ago when we played the packers they pack were called for 18 or 19 penalties and some of these penalties were weak. I have seen instant replay show a player step out of bounds or not have control of the ball get over turned. What I do believe is that these officials can't do anything right no matter what they do. They are getting nitpicked on every call. Who doesn't see missed calls? How many times did Michael Irvin push off when he played or how many times Peyton Manning drew a penalty when he complained to the refs. The tuck rules still is BS to this day.

That is a good point. I also think they have tried their best (I don't hate these guys, just their work product). They ruined their credibility by the NUMBER of bad calls in MANY games.

The result is that now they are under a microscope. It's hard to even focus on the game now, because we're distracted by what the refs are doing or not doing.

Stick a fork in them. They're done, as far as the fans are concerned.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

That is a good point. I also think they have tried their best (I don't hate these guys, just their work product). They ruined their credibility by the NUMBER of bad calls in MANY games.

The result is that now they are under a microscope. It's hard to even focus on the game now, because we're distracted by what the refs are doing or not doing.

Stick a fork in them. They're done, as far as the fans are concerned.

It should have been known these replacements wouldnt be as good as the originals. Despite years of experience, the original refs made terrible calls as well. I think the call was the right call as far as the simultaneous possession. The rule doesn't say who has more of the possession, it says the offense gets the ball.

For the people saying that Offensive PI should have been called in the replay. Is that fair? Last year, I watched Tim Tebow throw a hail mary, blatant defensive pass interfence should have been called. It wasnt. Nor was it reviewed

1) Defensive player does a PI, the play wouldnt be automatically reviewed because it isnt a scoring play. The team on defense wins the game.
2) If the offensive player does the PI and catched the ball, the TD is overturned.

Sounds like a HUGE advantage to the defense.