Thread: NFL and refs reach agreement

Finally, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees can start winning again.

Yes, we all saw that the replacements had more bad/missed calls..... but least with the replacement officials, the bad calls went both ways. When the regular officials make bad calls, they are often slanted toward one team.

It sounds like the refs got a good deal too. Both sides compromised and found a middle-ground they could live with. The best contract negotiations work this way.

Originally Posted by omc1969

Henry, we all remember that bad calls were made and will continue to be made by the officials. That's the nature of the beast. The "Human" element as it were. However, it's the degree that will matter. The bogus officials were just SO much worse that their mistakes stood out much more.

I would counter that it was already an issue made by the media and public before they even stepped foot on the field. That there ever was controversy made this a first world problem..

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

I guess it is back to blaming Jerry Angelo when the bears lose.

I think we're just beginning to learn that he was our equivalent of a replacement ref. A replacement GM. Well at least JA was an improvement over Mikey McCaskey. Of course most fourteen year olds with a Madden Game would have been an improvement over Mikey.

Originally Posted by Henry Burris

Does anyone seriously not remember the "normal" refs making stupid ass calls, non stop? It's good that everyone feels it's okay to harass, belittle, scream at, chant "Fuck you" at the guys that were brought in, just trying to do their job. I hope the new refs seriously mess up multiple games this weekend, just to jog some memories (Even if it's MNF). This season has been nothing but bitch bitch bitch, and if it's not Cutler it's this. Really annoying that there's nothing positive to gain from anything.

Well of course we do Henry but they didn't blow calls or misinterpret common rules calls at anywhere near the level these replacements did. Come on man they were in way over their heads and everyone could see that you included.

I don't disagree with you that they were just trying to do their jobs and I'm not angry at them. The NFL put them in a can't win situation. Guys who officiate at the Division III college level, at HS games and in the Lingerie League for Christ's sake are not competent to officiate at this level and it showed. I think most of us are upset with the NFL not the refs themselves but in order to criticize the league for their arrogance and short sightedness you have to criticize the performance of the officials. It's impossible not to.

So now we have the regular crews back all making the same mistakes they always have. You know, the ones were already used to. And we'll go on bitching about those calls like we always have too but at least they'll be that many less to bitch at. There is no way that any sane football fan could watch the games presided over by "the replacements" and not see that these guys didn't know what they were doing and that they were losing control of most games.

Anyone who didn't see it either wasn't watching much football or they don't know the sport very well. If those officials were still capable of doing a decent job the NFL owners would not have capitulated overnight to issues that just days before they were still refusing to budge on. It couldn't be any more obvious that it is that those guys were turning games and the NFL into a mockery.

Originally Posted by Henry Burris

I would counter that it was already an issue made by the media and public before they even stepped foot on the field. That there ever was controversy made this a first world problem..

The media made it a issue because these were NOT the same officials quality wise as was the case the last time replacements were used. These were NOT division 1 college officials but rather division 2,3 and (choke) former FIRED "underware league" rejects who were so incompetent that it was a joke that the NFL even considered using them in the first place.

Originally Posted by KenMasters

Finally, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees can start winning again.

Yes, we all saw that the replacements had more bad/missed calls..... but least with the replacement officials, the bad calls went both ways. When the regular officials make bad calls, they are often slanted toward one team.

You're kidding right? You actually believe that the regular NFL officials call games that way? That's the most ridiculous contention I've ever heard. Every official is evaluated every game on tape and anyone one official or any crew of officials who are consistently slanting calls towards one team or another would lose their jobs. Sorry brother. Ain't happenin' that way even though it may seem like it sometimes.

I've yet to see any photos of an NFL official wearing the jersey of his favorite team appear on his Facebook page just before he was scheduled to officiate one of that teams games. I've also yet to hear of any NFL official who ever tried to encourage a specific player to perform better because he had that player on his Fantasy Team. On top of that he was the one official in that game most directly responsible for calls on plays that player would be involved in. So maybe a borderline incompletion gets called complete when it benefits that officials fantasy stats hmmmm?

Come on. The NFL hired unqualified, part time, amateur officials to officiate professional games. Did they really think the results would be all that much different than they turned out to be? The higher level guys who officiate at Div. I or IA college level were smart enough to turn them down. Even those guys knew they had only borderline competency at the NFL level and they weren't gonna expose themselves to the embarrassment the others experienced or risk the good thing they had going where they were.

People need to stop clutching at straws to justify the performance of the "replacements". They were in way over their heads and the NFL knew that from the start. This whole thing is just one more example of the arrogance of guys like Jerry Jones, Jerry Richardson, Pat Bowlen and a few other owners who think they can run the league anyway that it suits them and that "sheeplike" fans, will just spend their money on their NFL "product", shut up and like it.

Well they were wrong.