Thread: What we learned

Originally Posted by Rogelio

Umm, I wish we would have gotten more than one sack against such a poor offensive line. That's my only gripe. Great game. Jay took what they gave him and waited for downfield passes to open up. He didn't force anything or make mistakes. The offensive line played really well, too. The run game still wasn't great, and hopefully Forte is 100% by the time we face Detroit in three weeks.

TR is pretty slippery and got rid of the ball fairly quickly. The Briggs "pick 6" was really a sack-fumble, not an interception. Even so, the DL did a great job despite a lack of sacks in terms of raw numbers. Stuffed the run and had Romo hurrying all night. Thank God Dez did his best Roy Williams impersonation via big drops cuz he & TR left 2 TDs and several other big plays on the field that would have made it a close game.

Originally Posted by Jimmors

I learned that Orton is a better QB then both Grossman AND Romo.

This is based on a garbage time TD when the Defense stopped caring?

Originally Posted by 4DaBERS

Disgruntled Cowboy fan or Bear hating NFCN rival?

Bear fan who is tired of Jay's antics is more like it.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

To be fair, our OL only gave up 2 sacks...it seemed both OC's made sure the OL was put in good positions tonight, lots of help, lots of quick passes, and Romo is good at avoiding the rush by moving in the pocket, or just getting the hell out of it. Shea was pushed inside quite often to help Romo move out more easily.

Jay did throw off his back foot, and forced a few passes, but he made 2-3x's more good decisions then bad ones, and that's what you need in today's NFL gunslinger.

In all honesty neither of those sacks was on the OL. One was a bootleg that misfired (I like the call even when it doesn't work to keep the DL honest) and the other--the fumble--was 100% on Jay. Ware beat Webb to the outside but he did an ok job of shoving him around deep. Cutler simply, as Gruden said correctly, held the ball a full second too long with everyone well covered. We all saw it coming before it happened. Jay shouldn't have ran and slid or chucked it away when "the alarm clock in his head" went off. I can't fault Webb for that. You're not going to keep Ware away from your QB 4+ seconds every time. All-in-all, Webb played a damn good game IMHO.

It didn't end up costing us but Shea had a rough "learning experience" game for a rookie DE. He couldn't keep the edge all that well and missed an open field tackle. It happens.

Thats just the way I seen it also.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

In all honesty neither of those sacks was on the OL. One was a bootleg that misfired (I like the call even when it doesn't work to keep the DL honest) and the other--the fumble--was 100% on Jay. Ware beat Webb to the outside but he did an ok job of shoving him around deep. Cutler simply, as Gruden said correctly, held the ball a full second too long with everyone well covered. We all saw it coming before it happened. Jay shouldn't have ran and slid or chucked it away when "the alarm clock in his head" went off. I can't fault Webb for that. You're not going to keep Ware away from your QB 4+ seconds every time. All-in-all, Webb played a damn good game IMHO.

It didn't end up costing us but Shea had a rough "learning experience" game for a rookie DE. He couldn't keep the edge all that well and missed an open field tackle. It happens.

Originally Posted by 4DaBERS

Sorry dude, Hester played WR in BOTH HS and College. He just wasn't one of the STARTING WR's for the Hurricanes. That said, I understand and agree with your defense of the Windy City Flyer.

okay you're right, but I don't think it was much in college(10-15 catches in 32, that's 1 catch every 2-3 games while at Miami.) cannot say in HS. He was mostly a CB/ST guy. I just don't think you can expect him to be a polished WR 4 years into really learning the position. And I don't think he'll ever be a great WR. But I think he can be a hell of a 3rd option running simple routes where he is facing the ball in space.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

German, and when his pisses his pants, I'll remain hard on him. I have never said trade him, drop him, get rid of him. I said that when everything isn't going well he needs to not do what Romo did, turn the ball over 3+ times(2 not really on him, but it is what it is).

Everyone on this board knows what he can do when everything goes near perfect, it's what keeps people saying he's just on the outside of elite. WHEN things are going well he HAS to have games like this, when things are NOT going well he needs sub 3 turn overs and find a way to pull back to do just enough to keep his team in the game and give them a chance to win.

Agree completely. Obviously better protection, better playcalling, and better receiver play all helped a lot. But we all can see what Jay is capable of (like in the Philly MNF game last year) when things are right and he's "on". His CEILING IS HIGH. No complaints there. What he needs to do to become an elite QB is RAISE HIS FLOOR when things are tough.

Take what the D gives you even when it is not what you want or hoped for. Protect the ball and limit forced throws and stupid picks. Keep your composure and gut out an "ugly win" when his supporting cast is having an off day. That kind of stuff.