Hester: We love Jay because of his fire
I thought I'd post something "positive" about Jay. It's great to see players rallying around him now. They have his back on this. If so, then I was wrong about Cutler's leadership. Maybe he's just a different leader than what I'm used to seeing. I think this is Hester & B.Marshall's point here.
Good read. Maybe this can be a rallying point that will unite the team and focus them moving forward.
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AP Photo/LM OteroBrandon Marshall believes Jay Cutler is a lightning rod because he's not like other QBs.
Devin Hester said Tuesday that the Chicago Bears love Jay Cutler because of his fire whileBrandon Marshall has a theory as to why Cutler is so acutely analyzed. Podcasts: Hester and Marshall
Devin Hester and Brandon Marshall joined "Carmen, Jurko & Harry" to talk about Jay Cutler.
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"I think Jay is the best quarterback that's going to fit our team," Hester said on "The Carmen, Jurko & Harry Show." "He's an emotional quarterback, and when you have a quarterback like that, that's willing to do whatever it takes to win, you get emotional. And that's just the nature of the beast, when you have a guy who's willing and has a passion for the love of the game, you're going to get emotional at times and you're going to flare up every now and then.
"If you get a quarterback who doesn't flare up and is always calm and laid back, you start second guessing yourself about that guy, maybe he doesn't really have the love or passion for the game. We love him because he has that fire, that fire mentality in him. He's calm at times, but when things are going wrong ... sometimes you need someone to step up and get in somebody's face and let him know when you're not doing good, you're not doing good."
Cutler has been criticized since he arrived in Chicago in 2009 for his demeanor, including his body language, yelling at teammates and most recently appearing to shun offensive coordinator Mike Tice during Monday night's win over the Dallas Cowboys. Hester said it's over-analyzation because it happens all over the league, but Marshall -- who played with Cutler in Denver -- has a theory why it's happening so much in Chicago.
"No I'm not (surprised)," Marshall said on "The Carmen, Jurko & Harry Show. "There are two reasons why. One, we're in Chicago, (which is) what, the second-biggest sports market in America. And two, (Cutler) doesn't look like your typical quarterback.
"When you look at Tom Brady, the way he does things, or Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers, it's on the total other end of the spectrum. So people aren't used to the way Jay conducts himself and does things, and he catches a lot of heat for that. I think we all will change some things and you want to be better at some things, but the way Jay is on and off the field is totally different than any quarterback I've ever been around, and that's why I respect him because he sticks true to himself. He doesn't get outside of himself, and he leads with a lot of passion, a lot of fire and I love it. Jay is one of our leaders, and a guy we all look up to and lean on, and without him this thing wouldn't go very far."
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Trestman - Kromer - Tucker - DeCamillis
I'm looking forward to seeing these guys coach. Hope they're good.
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"If you get a quarterback who doesn't flare up and is always calm and laid back, you start second guessing yourself about that guy, maybe he doesn't really have the love or passion for the game."
That is spot on. I'd always pick the QB with the emotions over the QB that just acts the same if he won the SB or lost all games.
I think the media are really going hard on Cutler, and yes there might have been reason to do so, but I just had enough of it. About time to win a SB and prove people were wrong. He can and hopefully will bring the Chicago Bears to their 2th SB victory.
The leadership well, I think that he is the guy that let's you know when you're doing something wrong and let you know when you're doing something great. Webb played really really bad against GB and Cutler told him, against Cowgirls he played well, and Cutler told him. Gives credit when credits needs to be given. Sometimes "You'll do it better next game" just isn't enough when it had been said way to many times.
Well to be fair, the Bears run tight ship and don't like public dessension, see DJ Moore. It's always been that way too, not just w/Lovie. If Hester wants to remain on the WR squad getting balls he had no way of saying anything else.
Also, I said this in the other thread, ther are some that probably do see him as a leader, and some that do not. His play, not his attitude will dicate how he's looked at each week. He needs more highs like Dallas, and his lows need to be like StL, not GB. When that happens he'll take less heat for dressing down players nationally then when he's in the midst of one of his worst games. Also last year even Brady got SOME heat for going after his OC, and he's the media golden boy so keep it in perspective, to some degree ever qb gets knocked for losing his cool.
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Those that play with fire get burnt. Yeah I know, I need to grow up, but that does not mean this offense can't grow a little too.
I am an emotional person, I hang my head, sport a shitty attitude, and throw too many pity parties myself. It has yet to make any situation I've been in better. Personally I think the kool catz do better in the long run. Everyone is different. I have adopted it as part of my personality and I need to work on it.
If you want to be emotional, stay above ground. A pat on the back, enthusiasm, fist pumps,... great. But keep it real. My impression has always been that the better competitors don't dwell. They have short term memories that only has room for the good beats. Whatever the challenge they believe they can do it despite the odds. They also realize the difficulty, and don't go overboard with celebration. They enjoy the moment for what it is, and then challenge themselves to do better.
Of course just looking at this one aspect does not tell the story of a person/team on the whole. Things are not that easy, but it does play its part. I do think that the attitude the media is projecting of Cutler (supported by what I've seen) does play a part. I believe it might be one of the reasons the Bears need the lead @ halftime. Players that believe they are going to come back and win just don't look or act like that on the sidelines.
When a player really believes they will come back and win the game, they do not get upset until after the clock runs out.
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LOL, when his own teammates are on the air defending him do you still have to minimize it with an excuse like this. Come on man. Let's be real for a minute.
Originally Posted by Riczaj01
Jay Cutler wants to win ball games as much or more than anybody on this team so the idea that he would ignore throwing to a wide open Hester just because of something he said on some damn radio broadcast is absurd. Even you can't really believe that. It's ridiculous.
Ric I know you disagree with the way Cutler conducts himself both on and off the field but this is really clutching a straws trying to find one more reason to believe the sensationalism of certain members of the media as opposed to what his own teammates think of him.
DJ Moore gave a personal opinion about one thing and one thing only. That was J'Marcus Webb's feelings. What he said was Jay shouldn't have bumped him. Why not? Because it was a put down to J'Marcus. There wasn't one part of his commentary that addressed Webb's crappy play and nowhere did DJ Moore say that he didn't like Jay Cutler or believe in his a his QB!
That's what some have extrapolated from those comments he made based on the way the media slanted it. Come on man don't buy into that crap. You can dislike him all you want but when you start backing it with nonsense like this I'm gonna call you on it.
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To play devils advocate. How often do you ever hear a player rip a teammate in the media? It is always positive talk.
Soul, it's not minimizing it, you and I both know how HH, and Lovie is. Really think Hester could have, this year, gone on radio and said the team hates Cutler and remained a starter/boarderline starter? Really?
I don't think it would have been so much ignoring open DH, I don't think Lovie would have him on the field. But Dallas was the first in 3 games that Cutler looked for the open guy consistantly, so it's not hard to imagine him ignoring the 3rd or 4th read in general ;p.
It has nothing to do w/sensasionalism; again imo he can act like the biggest jag in the world as long as he wins and plays well doing it; nothing I've said says anything different, so don't mix the message.
Didn't say DJ said anything else, I said he got(by lovie not cutler) shoved back in line(and he should have btw).
Again, JC can be the biggest douche on the planet as long as he plays well and wins. that's the reality of NFL football. Great players don't have to have class; but don't tell me I have to think he's a great leader or a great person b/c he's a great player. I'll call a douche a douche w/out any issue. Don't mix my two opinions 1)JC good to great player w/potential to improve to boarderline elite 2) off the field he's a huge douche bag who's espn radio show/interviews are near unlistenable b/c of his douchiness.
you must have missed chris johnson throwing his oline under the bus last week lol
Originally Posted by The Benjamin
hahaaaaa now that was funny; sounded familiar too...