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I have the feeling Eldridge will be Spaeth's eventual less expensive replacement. That is using Tice's counter-logic
I have the feeling Eldridge will be Spaeth's eventual less expensive replacement. That is using Tice's counter-logic
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I'll repeat my thoughts on him entering the draft. Craig Stevens 2.0 and I love me some Craig Stevens blocking.
Yeppers. This kid Eldridge looks like a "donk". Big, strong, and mean. He's a little more compact than Spaeth and bigger than Rodriguez who IMHO is playing out of position as a blocking back.Originally Posted by short faced bear
Rodriguez is more of a Aaron Hernandez/Shannon Sharpe type of HBack/TE. Throw to him and use him for down field blocking but not on the line or in the backfield. He doesn't have the body type for it.
If Eldridge can become another Tyler Clutts I'd be thrilled. We could use one.
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Aaron Hernandez as a TE for the Pats rushed for 150 yards in one game last year.
Think about it.
Suddenly there are T.E.'s at FB.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm .... Is this the wave of the future ?
Riczaj01 say BEAR DOWN!
BTW ... We always think of TE's as BLOCKERS and WR"S.
But should now the equation be added as FB/RB ?
The WALTER PAYTON scatback RB is a good thing to have ...
but it wouldnt hurt to have a BIG straight north-south bull nose rusher,
that doubles (triples) as a BLOCKER and WR.
Thats alotta THREAT out of one body ...
IF ... you can find that kind of player.
BLOCK ... CATCH THE BALL ... RUN THE BALL ?
What if you put four of them on the field at the same time?
That used to be Fortes job.
Now times that by four.
Runnin' short of meds again jackie? You're doin' a lot of double dippin' of posts tonight.
I'm getting to that age where a lifetime warranty just doesn't mean as much to me anymore as an afternoon nap.
Honey Badger Don't Care. Honey Badger Don't Give a Shit.
Henry Burris say BEAR DOWN!
Soul,Runnin' short of meds again jackie? You're doin' a lot of double dippin' of posts tonight.
Lets see your argument of what I just posted.
This time skip the insults and just get down to talking FOOTBALL.
It wasn't intended as an insult jackie. Just a joking around.
I'm probably far more of a walking, talking commercial for psych meds than most which is why I joke about it. Better living through chemistry.
OK, fair enough, lets talk about this idea.
jackiejokemanBTW ... We always think of TE's as BLOCKERS and WR"S.
But should now the equation be added as FB/RB ?
The WALTER PAYTON scatback RB is a good thing to have ...
but it wouldnt hurt to have a BIG straight north-south bull nose rusher,
that doubles (triples) as a BLOCKER and WR.
Thats alotta THREAT out of one body ...
IF ... you can find that kind of player.
BLOCK ... CATCH THE BALL ... RUN THE BALL ?
What if you put four of them on the field at the same time?
That used to be Fortes job.
Now times that by four.
Guys like Eldridge and/or Clutts, or Spaeth, or Adams or most anyone else like that aren't often used as ball carriers. I'm not saying you couldn't use them that way but for the most part they aren't used that way.
That deal with Hernandez was a pretty big exception to the rule. Belechick does some off the wall things sometimes in order to win games and you just had to know the opponent hadn't game planned for that one right? And it worked but I don't see him repeating it just because it worked once.
Even with their size and power guys like Eldridge or Clutts really aren't adept RBs because they've never been trained to be one. It takes more than just being a 260lb sledgehammer to run through a wall of defensive lineman who outweigh you by 50-100lbs and are just as big, strong, tough and mean as you are.
This is not a 235lb Bronko Nagurski goring 1930s Dlines that averaged less per man than he weighed for three yards and a cloud of dust football anymore. It isn't even Wm. Perry at 315lbs blasting a 225lb LB on his keester for a score. They can stop guys like Clutts and Eldridge and they will stop them as often as not because they aren't very nifty runners. If there's a hole they may power through it but if that's the case so can a 220lb back. If there's no hole both will get stuffed.
Besides why use a TE/FB to carry the ball when you already have a 6'1" 245lb power back like Bush who is an experienced ball carrier and can adjust on the fly. I'd say there's more power and running force behind a shorter more compact guy that size than a guy who is 4" taller and goes 265lbs. If a 6'5" guy can't compact himself into a tight ball, if he's too upright, he won't get penetration and he won't gain the necessary yardage. It's really a whole lot easier for 330lb NTs to stop a guy like that than you think it is.
I like the idea of using them in the backfield as blockers both on run and pass plays because they have the athleticism to block on the move and pick up blitzes or chip block with the OTs. On certain occasions you can throw to them as a check down receiver or on a quick toss out of the backfield but as ball carrier, no, I don't see the need when you have a Matt Forte or a Michael Bush to do that and do it better.
How's that for FOOTBALL TALK?
I'm getting to that age where a lifetime warranty just doesn't mean as much to me anymore as an afternoon nap.
Honey Badger Don't Care. Honey Badger Don't Give a Shit.
Soul,It wasn't intended as an insult jackie. Just a joking around.
I'm probably far more of a walking, talking commercial for psych meds than most which is why I joke about it. Better living through chemistry.
OK, fair enough, lets talk about this idea.
jackiejokemanBTW ... We always think of TE's as BLOCKERS and WR"S.
But should now the equation be added as FB/RB ?
The WALTER PAYTON scatback RB is a good thing to have ...
but it wouldnt hurt to have a BIG straight north-south bull nose rusher,
that doubles (triples) as a BLOCKER and WR.
Thats alotta THREAT out of one body ...
IF ... you can find that kind of player.
BLOCK ... CATCH THE BALL ... RUN THE BALL ?
What if you put four of them on the field at the same time?
That used to be Fortes job.
Now times that by four.
Guys like Eldridge and/or Clutts, or Spaeth, or Adams or most anyone else like that aren't often used as ball carriers. I'm not saying you couldn't use them that way but for the most part they aren't used that way.
That deal with Hernandez was a pretty big exception to the rule. Belechick does some off the wall things sometimes in order to win games and you just had to know the opponent hadn't game planned for that one right? And it worked but I don't see him repeating it just because it worked once.
Even with their size and power guys like Eldridge or Clutts really aren't adept RBs because they've never been trained to be one. It takes more than just being a 260lb sledgehammer to run through a wall of defensive lineman who outweigh you by 50-100lbs and are just as big, strong, tough and mean as you are.
This is not a 235lb Bronko Nagurski goring 1930s Dlines that averaged less per man than he weighed for three yards and a cloud of dust football anymore. It isn't even Wm. Perry at 315lbs blasting a 225lb LB on his keester for a score. They can stop guys like Clutts and Eldridge and they will stop them as often as not because they aren't very nifty runners. If there's a hole they may power through it but if that's the case so can a 220lb back. If there's no hole both will get stuffed.
Besides why use a TE/FB to carry the ball when you already have a 6'1" 245lb power back like Bush who is an experienced ball carrier and can adjust on the fly. I'd say there's more power and running force behind a shorter more compact guy that size than a guy who is 4" taller and goes 265lbs. If a 6'5" guy can't compact himself into a tight ball, if he's too upright, he won't get penetration and he won't gain the necessary yardage. It's really a whole lot easier for 330lb NTs to stop a guy like that than you think it is.
I like the idea of using them in the backfield as blockers both on run and pass plays because they have the athleticism to block on the move and pick up blitzes or chip block with the OTs. On certain occasions you can throw to them as a check down receiver or on a quick toss out of the backfield but as ball carrier, no, I don't see the need when you have a Matt Forte or a Michael Bush to do that and do it better.
How's that for FOOTBALL TALK?
Do you see a fundemental shift going on here ?
Could we be ahead of the curve for once?
I know we have Forte & Bush ... but add to that.
We have an "OL" ... that needs help until we get a REAL OL.
In the meantime ... TE's man.
Just saying that you dont resign Bell & cut him for a TE.
Unless things are changing.
We could be going in a direction that nobody forseen.
Tice was a TE when he played.
I'd like to see how this plays out.
One more thing Soul,
How about WIPING THE SLATE CLEAN ...
of what a TE is supposed to be?
It could be that the position is being reorganized before our very eyes.
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