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Thread: Bears release C. Williams, re-sign Bowman, terminate Aston Whiteside

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    Well unfortunately it does nothing for us cap wise. He was a vested veteran which means once he made the opening day roster his 2012 salary (about a mil) was guaranteed. So we have to pay it and count it. Only if we traded him could we have avoided that but I'm sure there were no takers.

    Spencer is vested for his salary too so we can't even ditch him and save any cap money. My guess is it came down to letting one or the other go and CWill drew the short straw. I think Tice and Lovie felt more comfortable keeing an NFL experienced OC/OG than they did a less experienced OT/OG. JMHO.

    I think Chris wanted out so that he had a chance to play for his new contract and the Bears accommodated him. They may have nosed around for some trade offers but whose gonna give up anything for an inactive OG when they figure you're about to cut him anyway?

    On one hand he didn't get treated very well in Chicago yet on the other he was unable to ever adequately play the position he was drafted to play. He was a finesse lineman playing for an OC who wants power players who are "people movers". Even as an OG CWill was much better at pulling and trapping than he was in the power game. He can't handle guys like Raji but Rachal most likely can and that's what Tice likes.

    If Rachal ever plays up to the potential that was attached to him when he was drafted then we'll have gotten ourselves a good starting LG off someone else's draft pick anyway and we'll forget all about CWill. I wish him well and hope he finds a place where he's a better fit than he's been in Chicago.
    Thanks for putting in your two cents, soul. I had forgotten about the part that we had already committed to pay his salary. Speaking of which, how does that work? Would that mean that since he isn't going to play this week for the Bears that we don't have to pay the rest of his salary for 2012? Wouldn't the same be true for Spencer? I understand the part about the guaranteed money automatically being paid out, but I'm not clear on the rest of how that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    Thanks for putting in your two cents, soul. I had forgotten about the part that we had already committed to pay his salary. Speaking of which, how does that work? Would that mean that since he isn't going to play this week for the Bears that we don't have to pay the rest of his salary for 2012? Wouldn't the same be true for Spencer? I understand the part about the guaranteed money automatically being paid out, but I'm not clear on the rest of how that works.

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    Completely agree with ya on A & B MP. I also think McMannis is injured & Bowman is pretty good on ST. An area with haven't been quite up to our standards.
    Yeah Jim the injury report said that McManis didn't practice on Monday due to a hip injury which usually means a "hip pointer" and those are painful. If that's the case may also keep him shelved for a game or two while he heals and Bowman would be a natural to replace him since he was one of the Bears better coverage guys before he signed with the Vikes.

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    The changes have been made and the past is the past.

    Lets move forward ... we have a future to think about and win.

    The rest of the NFL isnt waiting for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    Thanks for putting in your two cents, soul. I had forgotten about the part that we had already committed to pay his salary. Speaking of which, how does that work? Would that mean that since he isn't going to play this week for the Bears that we don't have to pay the rest of his salary for 2012? Wouldn't the same be true for Spencer? I understand the part about the guaranteed money automatically being paid out, but I'm not clear on the rest of how that works.
    Here ya' go Dags. I'll let the article explain it in fewer words than I can. No surprise there huh?

    Refresher on the "vested veteran" guarantee

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 31, 2010, 8:51 AM EDT

    Every year at this time, we begin to eyeball NFL rosters for veteran players who could be cut due to the reality that, if they are on any team as of Week One, their full base salaries become, as a practical matter, guaranteed. The rule comes from Article XXIII of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which provides each player having four or more seasons in the league with a one-time right to “termination pay.”

    If a so-called “vested veteran” is on a team at the start of the season and thereafter is released, he has the right to collect the balance of his base salary for the season — even if he later signs with another team.

    Each player may do this only once in his career.

    For vested veterans signed after the season starts, the available termination pay drops dramatically. Each player is entitled to the balance of the first 25 percent of his base salary or one week’s pay based on the minimum salary for players with 10 or more years of service, whichever is greater.

    The CBA also permits a team to disqualify a vested veteran from receiving termination pay, if the team sent a written warning to the player regarding his failure to exhibit a level of good-faith effort that can be reasonably expected from an NFL player — and if the player thereafter failed to exhibit such effort.
    We’re not aware of anyone ever relying on this defense; as a practical matter, a vested veteran who isn’t getting the job done gets cut before the season starts.
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    I'll bet that got her nice and hot, the Icy part wasn't needed as it just part of a woman makeup.

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    Nah, I got the regular ones but since she was always saying how much she enjoyed the "hot sex" I pre-lubed one for them with some "Icy Hot" just to please her.

    Just being considerate you know.

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    I'll bet that got her nice and hot, the Icy part wasn't needed as it just part of a woman makeup.
    That takes a woman's orgasm into the stratosphere. lol

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    Icy Hot is like a super Ben Gay for muscle soreness. It burns like hell so you can imagine what that would do if used as a sexual lubricant. That burning itching sensation wouldn't be coming from an STD.

    I squirted and little into the inside of the condom too just so they could both share in the experience.

    Disclaimer; It never really happened but we can all dream can't we. And.....this is a stunt that should only be performed by experienced professionals under controlled conditions. Teenagers should not attempt this on their own even if she does dump you for the star QB.
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