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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    I blame Jerry Angelo.
    Whoever wrote that article should not be writing articles. That was an awful write up of those players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    For starting the Great Chicago Fire. He was the last one seen leaving the barn where Mrs O'Leary kept her cow.

    I wonder what that was all about? Dead cows tell no tales.

    Well, he, ummmm, "had his way" with the cow. After F'ing the cow, he graduated to F'ing Da Bears.

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    JA had some big hits but the trouble is he had just as many or more big misses and that won't do much for your job security as he soon learned after last years colossal collapse.

    Looking back on it shows that those of us who always thought he went about drafting players in a cockeyed kind of way looks pretty accurate. Aside for the fact that he made some very poor picks his overall strategy seems screwed up.

    He often by passed good "football players" who played positions he wouldn't draft in order to grab an "athlete" who played a position like DT or DE which he did like to draft. After the David Terrell and Mark Bradley whiffs he refused to draft a WR before the 3rd round but was more than willing to reach for a pass rusher like Dan Bazuin or a fast but undersized LB like Michael Okwo.

    He spent as many picks filling STeams spots as he did front line positions and he wouldn't have known what a good Oline prospect looked like if the guy knocking his prize Dline picks on their collective asses every down. JA thought a "pancake block" was a street where IHOP, Village Inn, Perkins, and The Waffle House all had restaurants on opposite corners of the same intersection.

    He built his roster like a barbell. Top heavy on All-Pros and bottom heavy on STeam "sluggos" with little in the way of the type of experienced journeyman type of guys with starting talent Phil Emery has brought in to fill in that missing middle and provide both quality depth and fierce competition for starting roles.

    Instead of becoming a football scout and personnel man he should have become a fireman and at least he'd have been of some use when that cow kicked over the lantern and started that fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weneedmorelinemen View Post
    Whoever wrote that article should not be writing articles. That was an awful write up of those players.
    To be honest WNML, I didn't read his narrative. I just looked at the names of the failed draft picks & it really brought back a lot of bad memories.

    It seemed to me that Jerry Angelo was a good guy (I actually liked the guy), who just couldn't evaluate talent well. He wasn't a horrible GM, but just not good enough. I look at the franchises who have a trophy case full of Lombardi's, and then think of our lone win from over a quarter century ago (the trophy is probably in a dusty attic at Halas Hall by now, like a cast off from an old garage sale.......they probably don't even remember what a Super Bowl trophy even looks like there ).

    We always whine here about getting no respect from the sports media. I ask myself "why would they respect us?" .....just because we had some great teams from a long, long, long time ago? Until we get a few RECENT Super Bowl WINS, we are a joke to them. They see us with a QB now who can be "Good Jay" or "Bad Jay" on any given week - and who acts like a spoiled child lunatic at times. As fans we want to give him a "pass" on his nutty behavior in our hope that he will be "Good Jay" enough to get us to the promised land.

    Hopefully things will turn around this year, and stay good under Emery's watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    To be honest WNML, I didn't read his narrative. I just looked at the names of the failed draft picks & it really brought back a lot of bad memories.

    It seemed to me that Jerry Angelo was a good guy (I actually liked the guy), who just couldn't evaluate talent well. He wasn't a horrible GM, but just not good enough. I look at the franchises who have a trophy case full of Lombardi's, and then think of our lone win from over a quarter century ago (the trophy is probably in a dusty attic at Halas Hall by now, like a cast off from an old garage sale.......they probably don't even remember what a Super Bowl trophy even looks like there ).

    We always whine here about getting no respect from the sports media. I ask myself "why would they respect us?" .....just because we had some great teams from a long, long, long time ago? Until we get a few RECENT Super Bowl WINS, we are a joke to them. They see us with a QB now who can be "Good Jay" or "Bad Jay" on any given week - and who acts like a spoiled child lunatic at times. As fans we want to give him a "pass" on his nutty behavior in our hope that he will be "Good Jay" enough to get us to the promised land.

    Hopefully things will turn around this year, and stay good under Emery's watch.
    Oh yeah, the list by itself is bad. We all know JA was not the greatest drafter of talent in the early rounds. But to read a badly written list finding fault with every single player to come through the Bears draft is annoying.

    It was written by someone who doesn't know the drafts well and does not have the ability to use other words for "bad" besides "bad". Critique of late draft picks is just stupid because those are just a crap shoot anyway. I guess Emery fails because he did not hit on Frey or the other 7th round CB we drafted.

    There is plenty to critique on Angelo's draft. To complain that late round guys from 2002 and 2003 aren't currently on an NFL roster is not fair to those players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    I blame Jerry Angelo.
    I haven't heard of HALF of these duds. He did have some gems though Forte, Hester, Briggs, Tillman and some good/decent ones like Melton, Orton (He wasn't great but he did bring us Cutler), Manning, Olsen, Bennett etc. I am just using some names as examples and all.

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    Blowing a 3rd round pick on little Garrett Wolfe was a classic. I've always wondered if JA knew something we didn't regarding GW (maybe he could jump out of a back yard wading pool or something....... ).

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    I blame Cutler if he hadn't come to Chicago we would still have bad QBs and won't have even noticed how bad Williams or Webb really are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    Blowing a 3rd round pick on little Garrett Wolfe was a classic. I've always wondered if JA knew something we didn't regarding GW (maybe he could jump out of a back yard wading pool or something....... ).

    Wolfe was just one more guy who was poorly used in the offense. Like running him between the tackles was the right way to use a "scat back". JA was looking for his Warrick Dunn and he missed.......badly. But we never did us him correctly on offense.

    He did play pretty well on STeams though but overall not well enough to have spent a 3rd on him.
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