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    Brad Biggs: Webb becoming more 'aware' and thus playing 'faster' and better




    "Webb is becoming more aware," Tice said.

    "When they become more aware, it allows them to play faster.


    He's 6 feet 8, 340 pounds and he moves like a guy who's 6-3.

    He is very athletic for a guy his size.

    A primary focus for Webb this season has been improving his footwork, specifically his second step with his outside left foot.



    This is very encouraging news. Do you believe fans would ever be open-minded enough to accept him if he does turn out to be a solid LT for us?

    Or will people always see him as he was during his development years where he stunk?

    He just turned 24 years old during training camp this year. He's still a very young man. We've invested 2 years into developing him.

    It's been brutal because he's been a starter those years. It may have been madness on Mike Tice's part, but the result could be that we have our LT of the future.

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    Webb a building block one week at a time

    Bears left tackle becoming more 'aware' and thus playing 'faster' and better


    By Brad Biggs, Chicago Tribune reporter6:28 p.m. CDT, October 19, 2012




    The release of former first-round draft pick Chris Williams earlier this week did not signal the Bears have solved their issues on the offensive line.

    Left tackle still remains an issue for the organization even if J'Marcus Webb now stands alone after the departure of the man he competed against for the job during the offseason, training camp and preseason.

    Quietly, Webb has put together three solid games since the Week 2 loss to the Packers in Green Bay for which offensive coordinator Mike Tice is taking blame for not running the ball more and providing more help for the linemen.

    But those counting on Webb, who has made 21 consecutive starts, will not feel comfortable until he's at a consistent level for a long stretch of time.

    A year after he had 15 penalties marked off against him and two declined, Webb has been called for only three penalties with one declined through five games. According to Pro Football Focus, Webb surrendered two sacks and two hurries in the loss to the Packers. In the three games since, two on the road, he has allowed one sack, five hurries and one hit. Few left tackles in the NFL are going to make it through games cleanly.

    "It's a weekly progression," Webb said. "I keep getting stronger. I have to keep the intensity up and if I win my individual battle, that will help us win."

    His individual battle this week pits him against Lions right end Kyle Vanden Bosch, the 12-year veteran who has 57 career sacks and is one of the most active defensive linemen in the league.

    "Webb is becoming more aware," Tice said. "When they become more aware, it allows them to play faster. He's athletic, though I've heard a lot of people say he's not. I don't know what the hell they are looking at. He's 6 feet 8, 340 pounds and he moves like a guy who's 6-3. He is very athletic for a guy his size. He has excellent change of direction, but he doesn't always play fast.

    "I think back to the Seattle game two years ago when he was totally lost and it looked awful. Now, he's showing things in the meeting room. (Again,) when they are aware, they can play fast. That's part of the reason why he's playing better."

    A primary focus for Webb this season has been improving his footwork, specifically his second step with his outside left foot. He had a tendency a year ago to step in the bucket and that created a more direct path to quarterback Jay Cutler. That led to hits, hurries, sacks and times when Webb simply had to lunge and grab. It's something offensive line coach Tim Holt consistently is drilling into Webb.

    "You get yourself in trouble when you turn at the line of scrimmage and give that defensive end a short corner to get to your guy," Webb said. "It's a conscious effort when you're tired, a conscious effort all the time."

    With the Lions using a "wide nine" look on their line, they spread their linemen out further than most defenses. That means Vanden Bosch sometimes will be two or three yards further outside from where a typical end Webb faces would be. It creates more angles as the Lions work to keep everything inside and the scheme tries to force offensive tackles to play more in space against superior athletes rushing the passer.

    "That goes back to making sure that second step is vertical and staying square and using your feet," Webb said. "You can't get yourself into trouble early. He plays tough and he's relentless."

    The growth process continues for Webb, who's only 24. The Bears would like to see it expedited but plugging in a former seventh-round pick after just one season at right tackle wasn't going to be a seamless transition.

    "He's growing every week," center Roberto Garza said. "He's doing a lot of things well. He's practicing good and he has to carry that out onto the field."


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    Is this real? I'm not convinced yet and I think we won't know fully until the end of the season,

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    If we should turn into a soild LT I'm totally fine with it, and would have no hate on him. The only reason why the hate is because he sucks, if he turn the ship around we're gonna eat a bunch of crows, dicks and what not.

    Only time can tell if he turns out to be a good LT or just crap.
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    More aware?

    He's coming out of the pancake-induced coma?

    So what's this mean, in 3 years he'll be graded as an elite LT and then sign with the Cowboys?
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    Now that they cut CWill he's aware that he could be next unless he gets his act together.

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    Okay, let's see him take on top DE's w/out Spaeth to help, or a RB to chip for him 50+% of the time and see how "aware" he is.

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    Hey may not be the LT of the future for the Bears. But here are some things to consider. Other than a small handful of LT's in the NFL, most need some help against the better defenses, and/or they give up some hits/sacks on their QB's. I watch a lot of football, not just the Bears, and you see this. So, while we'd all like to have the #1 best all-pro LT for the Bears, reality is that we won't have that guy. But, we CAN have a fairly solid guy who yes, needs help at times protecting the QB, and who will give up some sacks/hits from time to time.

    Like we've seen in the past two games.

    It's like Cutler never being Brady. We'd all like for Jay to be the best QB that ever breathed air on planet earth. But that's not reality.

    The other "fan phenomena" that I've seen over-and-over again with fans, is that they are incapable of seeing change for the better in a player over his early years. We "brand" a player in our minds as being bad in the early years, and that "snapshot in time" is how we see the guy forever.

    I've been crazy angry with Webb's play. But, I am trying to step back and be a bit more objective in evaluating his play.

    I also think it's easy to look at a Cutler's sappy looks, and snarly moments & brand him as evil incarnate. Which isn't fair or accurate. Same with Webb. We look at him and say "he doesn't care" or "isn't trying" and he needs somebody to light a fire under his butt. But that may not be the case.

    Ever consider that he may be doing his best, but getting from where he was when we got him (light-years from NFL level competition) - to where he needs to be - going up against the best defenses I've seen in the NFL in recent years - is a steep mountain to climb?

    We watched him fail climbing the mountain. But he's kept climbing. I tell you guys, I DO respect how he's kept going and improving when his only real encouragers seem to have been his fellow starters on the oline (Garza in particular) and Mike Tice.

    Oh, and I believe it's been effective that Cutler has given him some props in recent weeks too. That is the kind of encouragement that will make a man try to move mountains, to be his best.

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    Tice will almost always defend Webb, and so should Garza (and to an extent, Cutty). However, praise from Cutler is definitely noteworthy because he is not afraid to call out on the problems. I do think that Webb has the potential, and he flashes it at times, but we need him to be more consistent. Hopefully he keeps up the current run.

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    I'm aware of Webb's issues but I feel quite optimistic about him as a player. I think people are so stuck with hate that we don't even notice small improvements. Look at Tim Jennings, if he had spent the first part of his career with the Bears I'm sure a lot of fans would be screaming to get rid of him and look how he's developed into a great partner for Tillman. I think as a seventh round pick who is in his second year at left tackle he's playing about right. I'm not sure what more we could want from him. His attitude is my biggest problem how he seems nonchalant about giving up sacks.. but I'm guardedly optimistic about where this line is heading. This season is going to be one hell of a ride and I'm hoping we stomp on the Lions this Monday.

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    The way I look at it is that if he has gone from being a negative influence on the line to just being neutral, we are much better off. I am definitely not ready to say he is a good lineman yet, but if he is not helping the team to lose any more we are way ahead. Obviously, I hope I can say that he is a factor in us winning games. It is moving that way, so we will see.

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