Thread: what we learned

Originally Posted by XxMidwayMonstersxX

Uhhh, what?

I know most people think my opinions are wrong, but I've never heard a sports fan say that about their own team.

Your opinion is... wrong?

There is no such thing as a wrong opinion, wrong answers and results..
Anyway I for one could not care less about how many points we score in each game, all I know is we need atleast one point to win the game. I'd be happy to win 3-0 in every game or with a safety, if that would make us win the SB then I don't care if we win 100-0 or 5-3 sure the 100-0 game would be much more fun to win, but it's all about the win. It doesn't help to play entertaining but lose every game.

You almost never remember the entertaining game which you lost, but you remember the boring game that you won the SB with..

Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH

you said it with your own words... you only have taken the Bears D Points out, not for all the teams. You come with total points which has a big total compared to pts/game.

do all the work or don't come with half the truth. All or nothing.

BTW, we are 2nd in the NFC with a 5-1 record. This is all that matters


I take 5x 2:0 Wins over 5x 56:77 Loss

Wow, you really fell to pieces on that one. I "came with total points which is a big total compared to pts/game..."? What are you talking about? That doesn't make any sense at all. You are using the fact that I posted disclosures as a crutch to not have to respond. Your points are lazy, mundane, and a regurgitation of what you hear from others. How is life on the bandwagon? Good I hope. Since you want to be a D-bag about it I'll go ahead and kick that crutch out from under you in a few moments.

But before I get started: "I take 5x 2:0 Wins over 5x 56:77 Loss" What a dumb thing to say and an even dumber way to say it. WTF were you thinking man? If I am reading this correctly your point is that you don't care how much we win by. Well, 2-0 and 56 -77 are not realistic. Good teams are going to score points on us, I don't really even know how else to respond to such an out of touch and asinine statement. Moving on.

Team	IntTD	FRTD	Total	Defense Points	Total pts	Offense Pts	Games	Avg. Offense Pts.	Adjusted total points	Rank
Chicago Bears	5	0	5	35	162	127	6	21.17	148	18
Washington Redskins	3	1	4	28	201	173	7	24.71	173	8
Houston Texans	3	0	3	21	216	195	7	27.86	195	4
Cleveland Browns	2	0	2	14	147	133	7	19.00	133	22
Carolina Panthers	2	0	2	14	106	92	6	15.33	107	32
San Diego Chargers	2	0	2	14	148	134	6	22.33	156	15
Denver Broncos	2	1	3	21	170	149	6	24.83	174	7
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2	0	2	14	148	134	6	22.33	156	15
New York Jets	2	0	2	14	159	145	7	20.71	145	19
Baltimore Ravens	2	0	2	14	174	160	7	22.86	160	12
St. Louis Rams	1	0	1	7	130	123	7	17.57	123	26
Atlanta Falcons	1	0	1	7	171	164	6	27.33	191	5
Minnesota Vikings	1	0	1	7	167	160	7	22.86	160	12
Indianapolis Colts	1	0	1	7	117	110	6	18.33	128	25
Pittsburgh Steelers	0	0	0	0	140	140	6	23.33	163	11
Arizona Cardinals	0	1	1	7	124	117	7	16.71	117	28
Tennessee Titans	0	1	1	7	149	142	7	20.29	142	20
Detroit Lions	0	0	0	0	133	133	6	22.17	155	17
Seattle Seahawks	0	0	0	0	116	116	7	16.57	116	29
Cincinnati Bengals	0	0	0	0	166	166	7	23.71	166	10
Oakland Raiders	0	0	0	0	113	113	6	18.83	132	23
Philadelphia Eagles	0	0	0	0	103	103	6	17.17	120	27
Jacksonville Jaguars	0	0	0	0	88	88	6	14.67	103	31
Buffalo Bills	0	0	0	0	171	171	7	24.43	171	9
New England Patriots	0	1	1	7	217	210	7	30.00	210	1
Kansas City Chiefs	0	1	1	7	104	97	6	16.17	113	30
Green Bay Packers	0	0	0	0	184	184	7	26.29	184	6
San Francisco 49ers	0	1	1	7	165	158	7	22.57	158	14
Dallas Cowboys	0	0	0	0	113	113	6	18.83	132	23
New Orleans Saints	0	0	0	0	176	176	6	29.33	205	2
Miami Dolphins	0	0	0	0	120	120	6	20.00	140	21
New York Giants	0	0	0	0	205	205	7	29.29	205	2

Wow Germans, I'm so glad you asked me to bring it "all or nothing." Now we can say that the Bears are at the bottom of the middle third rather than the top of the bottom third. Great call...

Check me on the rankings, I had to do that myself. The rest I copied and pasted into excel (I <3 Excel, makes my life so easy!) so it should be more or less correct.

PLZ


I guess I'll be quiet now and "learn what others want to say" Germans.

Originally Posted by XxMidwayMonstersxX

Disclosures:
1.) I did not break out the defensive scoring for all 32 teams. This will obviously change the standings a bit. If anyone can find that information I would be very interested to see it (points scored by team, by offense, no defensive scoring included).

Overall Pt/G Rk	Just O Pts/G Rank	Tm	Over all pt/G	O Pts/G
3	1	New Orleans Saints	29.33	21.00
1	2	New England Patriots	31.00	18.86
9	3	Green Bay Packers	26.29	18.86
2	4	Houston Texans	30.57	18.00
4	5	New York Giants	29.29	18.00
6	6	Atlanta Falcons	28.50	18.00
7	7	Denver Broncos	28.33	18.00
13	8	Buffalo Bills	24.43	17.14
5	9	Washington Redskins	28.71	16.29
15	10	Cincinnati Bengals	23.71	15.43
11	11	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	24.67	15.00
16	12	San Francisco 49ers	23.57	14.57
12	13	San Diego Chargers	24.67	14.00
17	14	Pittsburgh Steelers	23.33	14.00
10	15	Baltimore Ravens	24.86	13.71
8	16	Chicago Bears	27.00	13.00
22	17	Miami Dolphins	20.00	13.00
14	18	Minnesota Vikings	23.86	12.00
18	19	New York Jets	22.71	12.00
19	20	Detroit Lions	22.17	12.00
20	21	Tennessee Titans	21.29	12.00
21	22	Cleveland Browns	21.00	12.00
28	23	Carolina Panthers	17.67	12.00
23	24	Indianapolis Colts	19.50	11.00
24	25	Dallas Cowboys	18.83	11.00
27	26	Arizona Cardinals	17.71	10.29
25	27	Oakland Raiders	18.83	10.00
30	28	Philadelphia Eagles	17.17	10.00
29	29	Kansas City Chiefs	17.33	9.00
26	30	St. Louis Rams	18.57	8.57
31	31	Seattle Seahawks	16.57	8.57
32	32	Jacksonville Jaguars	14.67	8.00

Yeah, our offense is as potent as Fins....

Edit: crap 3 minutes too late...screw it, I did the damn math, I not deleting it...

Originally Posted by XxMidwayMonstersxX

Thats not correct wolfman, I got the numbers from the same place you got them, we are not averaging 27 points per game on offense. That has defensive scoring included. The discussion is about the potency of the offense.

I know...look again...

Although, I only included TDs...I think maybe your number include FGs and XPs as well?

Originally Posted by Wolfman

I know...look again...

Although, I only included TDs...I think maybe you number include FG and XP as well?

I included everything. There is no way you get to 27 points a game for the bears without including defensive scoring :(

I think my breakdown is pretty thorough. The only real situation points scored doesn't account for is like when a team turns the ball over in their own endzone and the score is a gimme for the offense (for example). Other than that its a pretty darn good indicator of offensive success.

Thanks though for your contributions. I appreciate you adding your two cents in without trying to slam me for my opinions.

Edit: Ohh NM I see what you are saying with 13 points. Yes I did include everything.

Honestly I don't know why there is such a thread like this.
I don't care if we scored more points under Mike Martz, the reallity is that if we had Mike Martz as an OC coach, we shouldn't have gotten B.Marshall in the first place, because we would only have good use of him in the first 3 games untill they killed Cutler for good. Then we would be left with Campbell, which would have been killed after 5-6 games...

There is no reason to complain we're 5-1 we have own our games with fairly high score even tho some of the TDs have been defense.. Tice is a rookie give him some time, when he have been there as long as Mike Martz then you can come, you can't compare a rookie OC and a "vet" OC specially not 6 games into the season..


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Originally Posted by ZifanQ

Honestly I don't know why there is such a thread like this.
I don't care if we scored more points under Mike Martz, the reallity is that if we had Mike Martz as an OC coach, we shouldn't have gotten B.Marshall in the first place, because we would only have good use of him in the first 3 games untill they killed Cutler for good. Then we would be left with Campbell, which would have been killed after 5-6 games...

There is no reason to complain we're 5-1 we have own our games with fairly high score even tho some of the TDs have been defense.. Tice is a rookie give him some time, when he have been there as long as Mike Martz then you can come, you can't compare a rookie OC and a "vet" OC specially not 6 games into the season..


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Only speaking for myself, I'd say I am not complaining, just voicing a bit of concern...I hope that concern is gone in a few weeks and doesn't drag all the way into the Playoffs....

lol, /thread...this thread had a good 20+ pages to go...:)