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    I wouldn't mind if the Bears added some really nice trimmed bushes to Soldier Field to laid around on there nice new turf. Well maybe that wouldn't work after all knowing RB and WR the way do they would forget to run their route, as they stopped to check out the newly trimmed bushes. Maybe I can get Soulman and Ric to help me trim the bushes during the week so they would be real pretty for Sundays game. How about if guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ-30 View Post
    I wouldn't mind if the Bears added some really nice trimmed bushes to Soldier Field to laid around on there nice new turf. Well maybe that wouldn't work after all knowing RB and WR the way do they would forget to run their route, as they stopped to check out the newly trimmed bushes. Maybe I can get Soulman and Ric to help me trim the bushes during the week so they would be real pretty for Sundays game. How about if guys.
    I'm in. I've got an expensive pair of barber shears and a Wahl beard trimmer. Guess it could tackle a bush to if it wasn't to thorny or wiry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ-30 View Post
    Not sure where you came up with your numbers but from what I have read Webb has given up one sack in 5 games. If I am right that work be more like he is on track to give up 6 sacks this season. 3 in the first game with GB and 3 for the rest of the season, hell I'll take that any year.
    What I was calculating in my head, JJ, was the average number of sacks allowed after every quarter of the season. I think he gave up three against the Packers. If you went strictly by the first quarter of the season, he's actually on pace to give up 12 sacks. However, I don't think he's given up a sack except for maybe Monday night, but I will have to check on that. If not, his pace for total sacks will go down significantly.

    www.windycitygridiron.com/2012/10/18/3518234/chicago-bears-sackwatch-2012-bye-week-breakdown
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    Here's a look at how the offensive line has performed in pass protection so far:
    Player Snaps Penalties Sacks QB hurries QB hits
    J'Marcus Webb 349 2 3 1 8
    Gabe Carimi 349 7 3 4 17
    Lance Louis 349 1 1 1 2
    Roberto Garza 349 0 1 0 1
    Chilo Rachal 209 2 0 0 2
    Chris Spencer 143 1 1 1 4
    Source: Pro Football Focus

    This is through Week 5. Not counted in this is how many sacks were given up by individual players not on the offensive line, including those for which Jay Cutler is to be held responsible. That information is available in the link I set up for you. Kellen Davis has been responsible for one sack, as has Matt Forte. There are dissenting opinions in the link between PFF and WindyCityGridiron.com, so we'll leave it at that.

    Does anyone know who was responsible for what in the sack department against the Lions? I've looked online and haven't been able to find a breakdown of who gave up what in the sack department.
    Last edited by Dagan81; 10-26-2012 at 11:12 PM.

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    As mentioned, Carimi really is looking ugly. He'll be fine, and I hope soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    What I was calculating in my head, JJ, was the average number of sacks allowed after every quarter of the season. I think he gave up three against the Packers. If you went strictly by the first quarter of the season, he's actually on pace to give up 12 sacks. However, I don't think he's given up a sack except for maybe Monday night, but I will have to check on that. If not, his pace for total sacks will go down significantly.

    www.windycitygridiron.com/2012/10/18/3518234/chicago-bears-sackwatch-2012-bye-week-breakdown
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    Here's a look at how the offensive line has performed in pass protection so far:
    Player Snaps Penalties Sacks QB hurries QB hits
    J'Marcus Webb 349 2 3 1 8
    Gabe Carimi 349 7 3 4 17
    Lance Louis 349 1 1 1 2
    Roberto Garza 349 1 1
    Chilo Rachal 209 2 2
    Chris Spencer 143 1 1 1 4
    Source: Pro Football Focus

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearsinhouston View Post
    As mentioned, Carimi really is looking ugly. He'll be fine, and I hope soon.
    You know, Carimi is getting the job done, but he's a bit rough around the edges. I have noticed that on his part, he's giving up a lot of QB pressures and hits on Cutler. However, with the exception of Monday night, his sacks allowed totals match Webb's exactly.

    Speaking of Webb, the reason I want to replace him next year with an All Pro is because we wouldn't have to chip as much. I doubt that Long, Bushrod, and Clady have chip blockers on more than half of the players they're in on. I think Webb is really coming on, but I think he's hit his ceiling. We can do so much better. Carimi will be fine in time, however. He has the potential to become an All Pro RT.

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    When I think of Carimi I think of a rookie as he only played in 2 games last year. Hopefully Tice any get him to settle down a pit, there is fine line between playing aggressively and being overly aggressive.

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    Except for Garza we still have a young line and if they keep improving we could have a very good O line for years to come.

    Roberto Garza 12 years
    Chilo Rachal 5 years
    Lance Louis 4 years
    J'Marcus Webb 3 years
    Gabe Carimi 2 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ-30 View Post
    Except for Garza we still have a young line and if they keep improving we could have a very good O line for years to come.

    Roberto Garza 12 years
    Chilo Rachal 5 years
    Lance Louis 4 years
    J'Marcus Webb 3 years
    Gabe Carimi 2 years
    It's a good thing and sox was saying that this upcoming draft will have some very good interior line prospects so picking up another young guy who might compete at OG or OC is a good possibility.

    I doubt Emery will ignore that this coming year. No matter how well they may come together we still need another top prospect on the inside. It'll be interesting to see what they do with James Brown. Will they develop him as an OG or will they develop him as an OT.
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    I not only want to know what they are going to do with Brown but also Scott. Is E. Williams going to be G for us or are developing him into a future Center. Right now as things look we need to get a Center if E Williams isn't going to be that guy, then maybe a G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ-30 View Post
    I not only want to know what they are going to do with Brown but also Scott. Is E. Williams going to be G for us or are developing him into a future Center. Right now as things look we need to get a Center if E Williams isn't going to be that guy, then maybe a G.
    They're definitely prepping EWill for OC. He doesn't have the bulk or strength Tice wants in his OGs but he does have a lot of quickness off the ball so he can play OC pretty well. Well enough is another thing though. I guess we won't really know until he does.

    We could stand to upgrade Scott. He's filling a need but he's hit his peak as far as his game goes. He's an experienced journeyman OT who can play either side so that makes him a decent swing tackle but he has no real upside.

    Brown is the guy with huge upside but where is the question. He's got a big enough wingspan for OT but he lacks the ideal size for it. Still he might be the perfect guy to replace CWill as a guy who could play all four line spots and be a really good backup man.
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