Thread: what we learned

I learned that any O-line improvement is transitory at best. TALENT will be needed next season, end of story.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

Bears D: This is the 2nd time in 2 years where the Panthers walked all over this D and somehow found a way to lose. Did Snarky Lovie try and claim this again proved his scheme is better again? Steve Smith slipping saved this D's ass; nothing about the actual scheme. This was the first time I got excited all game, minus the 12 yard Forte TD run(did I mention the Rb's being the lone O highlight; if not I should have).

Bend but dont break. They may have put up yards, but they only scored a single TD. And even THAT TD was a Fumble recovery that couldve just as easily been Bears ball.

“After I cleared the linebackers I wanted the ball,” Davis said.

Davis has 11 career touchdown catches, the fifth-most in club history for a tight end, breaking a tie with Keith Jennings. More remarkable? Davis has 11 touchdown grabs in just 38 career receptions. That is one every 3.45 catches.

I learned that K.Davis is a killer red-zone threat - if we just choose to use him as a receiving weapon. The more we use him, the better receiver he will be for us. He looks like a man among boys out there.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I learned that K.Davis is a killer red-zone threat - if we just choose to use him as a receiving weapon. The more we use him, the better receiver he will be for us. He looks like a man among boys out there.

Let's see what happens. Every time he did this when Martz was running the offense he went right back to ignoring him as if the score endangered proving his offensive theories about the job of TEs wrong.

Davis is a massive red zone threat over the middle on a throw like that yet how often to we use it. Even if it's only a decoy move it takes three guys to cover him down there and it will get somebody else open. Somebody (that somebody being Tice of course) needs to explain to me why we always seem to make the easy so difficult.

Davis catches a TD pass in one out of four catches and he's almost impossible to bring down with just one guy but that was the first time in the game we threw to him. Instead we throw to Speath on a key third down. Spaeth has hands of stone and we all know that so what am I missing?

Same with the running game. Forte has killed these guy almost every time he's played them. Two years ago he virtually beat them singlehandedly because Todd Collins couldn't complete a pass that wasn't a hand off. So how many times does he run Forte! Fifteen right and I think five of those were on that first drive. Bush gets four carries all game long and we run less than 20 times!!!!

It's like somebody gave Tice an XBox Madden game and he wants to explore it. I got called out yesterday for criticizing Lovie's coaching but I meant what I said. This is his team, all of it offense and defense, and he's the one whose ultimately responsible for how they play. It's time for him to have a sit down with Tice just as he did with Martz and get his game plans and play calling squared up with the talent he has.

If the line could pass protect we'd be rolling up 30 points a game without breathing hard, Cutler IS that good, but they can't. So run the damn ball until they stop it. Make them commit to stopping the run first before you abandon in it Mike! You keep saying you're gonna do that yet with each passing game you abandon it earlier and your offense gets worse! Lovie is the one who needs to put a stop to this.

And I don't care how good Devin Hester practices he simply doesn't belong on the field as a starter once the game starts. How much longer does this have to go on before you believe it. His route running skills and his ability to make the key catch just isn't good enough for a #2 role. That belongs to Bennett and Sanz right now so start playing them and maybe the passing game will improve provided you call the right pass plays.

I'm totally flabbergasted by the way Tice approaches these games and how little change there has been since the Packer game. We've had one good offensive showing against Indy and since then it's been going downhill yet every week it's the same old thing. Come out throwing and get Cutler sacked. It's really even beyond stupid. It borders on complete and total ignorance and the same kind of arrogance and failure to adjust that we saw under Martz.

God Damn It but I'm tired of seeing him shoot his own offense in the foot every week!

With us being 6-1, we're at a great point in the season for the coaching staff to evaluate the offense and make some decisions moving forward. They've had seven games to get a good feel for what works and what doesn't work with this year's players. I agree, Soul, that Lovie needs to talk with Tice on what he wants taken out of the playbook for this year - because it doesn't work, and is not going to work this year.

Tice needs to understand the strengths and limitations of his personnel, moving forward with our season.

The good thing is that he has had ample opportunity to evaluate this offense and still be 6-1. In addition to that, it appears there's a lot this offense can do, even with the limitations of the offensive line. It's all fixable at this point. That's pretty cool IMHO. In fact, I think we'll see some real firepower this 2nd half of the season by the offense. The run game can DEFINITELY go to another level. It's there for the taking.

I look for this team to be very formidable by the playoffs. Yes, we're probably going to lose 3 or 4 games before the playoffs begin. But that means we will be 12-4 or even 11-5 for the season. I don't know about the others, but I'd be mighty pleased with that. Then we can begin the 2nd season. The one that matters. At that point, this team will have had 16 games to get the offense hitting on all cylinders.

Tice will be fine. Cutler will be fine. The WR corps will be fine. I even believe the oline will be fine if Tice will call plays within its ability. Even yesterday I saw a lot of good plays, and a handful of bad plays (Cutler and Tice have to take the blame for some of those sacks IMHO). One really cool thing is that this oline can block exceptionally well, if Tice calls a good game. The last few games I've seen some of the best run blocking by a Bears oline in recent years (coupled with some breakdowns too). But there is a lot to be hopeful about.

But I do agree Lovie needs that talk with Tice to reign him in. I think it's all going to be fine, and we'll have a great year.

Can you guys remember the last time Hester did NOT have a big drop? I can't.