Thread: "Championship teams seem to find a way, even on their worst days"

I doesn't matter? I'd say it does if anyone expects to get that lucky every week. But that's me and I'm in my "the glass is half empty" mode right now.

I agree that "winning ugly" is still a win but ya' gotta ask yourselves how many times the "win fairy" is gonna sprinkle "oops dust" on the hands of an All Pro receiver like Steve Smith so that he drops a sure TD pass and then next tosses an "invisible banana peel" on the field right under his feet so that he slips on his route and we get a pick for the go ahead TD?

I don't quarrel with the fact that all championship teams have a game or two during the season where luck plays a bigger role that skill but this is two in a row now and I wouldn't count on anymore of them for a while. I think the "win fairy" was also in Green Bay for a while yesterday before she raced back to Chicago for the end of the Bears game and word is she's pretty damn tired right now and heading South for a little R&R on a sunny beach somewhere around Cabo.

Her ticket for next weeks game against the Titans is up for sale if anyone's interested and it's not counterfeit.

I think there's always a certain element of dumb luck in a championship season. But teams have to have the heart to not quit. In a sense you make your own luck. You look back and say "that was lucky" but then again, I can see a difference between a Rex Grossman experience vs. Cutler who will fight back in a game and not give up.

The "D" never rolls over for anybody. And the offense will take something special away from this win. They know (now) that they can come back from a pretty bleak deficit. They scored 2 touchdowns in an 8 second span. Then came "The Drive" that won the game with 2 seconds left on the clock.

I just feel there's something special about this team. They remind me of a great boxer who can take a "gut check" and get up off the canvas and knock an opponent out in the 15th round. Even though he's been bloodied and battered, he can come back and take an opponent out - and win a championship.

Man, I love that. All the talent in the world can't equal that "it" factor. These guys are fighters.

Yeah they're fighters alright but even the best eventually lose the fight. Ali couldn't beat everyone with a "rope a dope" defense could he? Age has a way of making even the best less effective as time goes by and this defense will wear down if it had to play that many snaps every game.

Sure I'm proud of their not giving up and staying in the fight but it still doesn't answer the question about why it was still a fight at that point. Two weeks in a row teams we should have been able to best handily have given us all we could handle. So when does that stop?

If this were boxing then I'd say that we've been fighting "club fighters" and sparring before a title shot. The only problem is we're not learning from it, we're not dodging those punches well enough and before we even get a title shot one of our sparring partners is gonna knock us out!

These games shouldn't even be a fight so when that stops happening I'll have a lot more admiration for that offense as a whole. Yep Cutler is a far better QB than Grossman but you're preaching to the choir. I watched him here long before the Bears got him and I know what he can do when you give him an offense he can do it with.

I figure I'm just going to sit back and watch what happens. I could be dead wrong. I've sure been wrong a lot before about the Bears.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I figure I'm just going to sit back and watch what happens. I could be dead wrong. I've sure been wrong a lot before about the Bears.

All there is to watch is the offense brother. It's all pretty simple. If they don't improve and find ways to sustain drives and score points we're in for a big shock pretty soon. You can't beat good teams with an offense like that.

My greatest concern is that little or nothing is done to improve on that because everyone is still hiding behind the "well we won didn't we" rationale. Time to stop all that "whistling in the dark" stuff and own up to it. The offense cannot win a game on it's own without the help of big plays by the defense and timely stops.

As great as the '85 Bears defense was they also had a powerful offense to go with it. They led the NFL in scoring in '85 and the defense wasn't the only reason for that. When you take away the TDs this defense has scored then we get a true picture of just how anemic our offense has been.

Carolina handed us great field position all game long and we could still only manage two TDs and a FG. Seventeen friggin' points against a bottom ten defense before we played them. Last week it was 13 points against another team with a bottom ten defense missing it's two top CBs!

That's not good enough. We'd be lucky to hold on and win the NFCN at this rate and we'd get killed in the playoffs. We finally get some top vet talent across the board at our skill positions but get saddled with a rookie OC/Play Caller who can't run the show. I'd shut up about it I was seeing even some glimmer of improvement but I'm not. It just gets worse ever week, not better.

It is true that good teams find ways to win on a bad day, but it's also true that lucky teams are sometimes handed a win that they shouldn't get. It's also true that average teams are supposed to beat bad teams and good teams are supposed to beat average teams and bad teams. Someone on the Score used the term "Bum Slayers" with regard to the Bears. I'll be honest; the Bears have beaten ONE team that currently has a winning record (Colts) and that was their QB's very first game in the NFL. The teams we've beaten have a combined record thus far of 15-28 (0.349 winning percentage), and we didn't look very good against one of the leagues 3 worst teams yesterday. So, it really is rather hard to argue with the whole "Bum Slayer" argument.

With all that said, I think 2010 was aberration of pure luck and our presence in the NFCCG was undeserved. However, I also believe that 2006 was for the most part legit, even though we only beat 4 winning teams in the season (most teams play between 5 and 7 winning teams in a season). Sometimes, no matter who your team plays (yea, I know, you can only play who's on the schedule), you get that feeling that they are either lucky or good. While they have not yet beaten anyone of significance, even I have this feeling that the team is legit this year, and I can sometimes be considered rather pessimistic. The Bears will get their shot to prove themselves as the schedule is going to start getting tougher very soon, but so far, we have proven little more than we are at least average, by beating mostly bad teams. I'm betting (or more likely hoping) that we are a "good" team, but I do get that feeling that this team more closely resembles 2006 than 2010 and as JABF suggested in a different thread, I'm going to smell the roses while it lasts.

We can all smell the roses 4da but me, I'm gonna be on the watch out for those thorns that come from getting too close to them and taking too deep a breath.


I'll be more then willing to give then credit when it's due just as I give them criticism now when it's due. This team has a ways to go before it can call itself a true contender in my flower shop.