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    "This one is different"

    I'm mighty glad we've got Cutler. He is "different" and it's taken some time for me to accept that "different" is OK. I think this guy is a very complex personality. I don't think you can just say he's a good leader or bad leader. He's just Jay, and a guy who can lead us to a Super Bowl victory.

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    COMMENTARYThis one is different

    Bears QBs have struggled before, but Cutler able to overcome





    CHICAGO -- Maybe it's the uniform. Or just Chicago fans' lot in life. Whatever it is, if we haven't figured it out yet, we better get used to the idea that Chicago Bears quarterbacks are simply never going to make it easy on us.
    This one in particular.

    For those who dislike Jay Cutler's personality, who question his leadership skills or his consistency, there will always be another reason to justify it. But after the Bears' come-from-behind 23-22 victory over Carolina on Sunday, certain inalienable facts need also be acknowledged.

    The Bears used to lose these games. A lot.

    They used to get into the two-minute drill and fail.

    They used to have quarterbacks as unpredictable as the current guy. Who are we kidding? They often have. But while Cutler may sometimes fail in big moments, he doesn't shrink in them. Thanks to that, and another heroic pick-six by the Bears' defense, his teammates were once again defending him after the nine-play, 55-yard, Cutler-directed drive that led to Robbie Gould's 41-yard game-winning field goal.

    Asked what the difference was in the Bears' last drive after the 3 1/2 quarters of offensive dreck that preceded it, and wide receiver Brandon Marshall didn't skip a beat.

    "Cutler," he said. "That's when you want that type of quarterback. I looked up at the clock … and [Carolina's Justin Medlock] just made a field goal that brought the score to 22-20 (Panthers), and Jay gets up smiling. I'm sitting here shaking, a little bit of the cold weather, a little bit of nerves, and he just starts smiling like, 'Well, here we go,' and just put me at ease right away.

    "The guys feel that vibe and they play off of it. Jay definitely led the huddle that last drive and made us pick up our game."

    Also helping things along was the beautifully gift-wrapped shank by Panthers' punter Brad Nortman that gave Cutler and the Bears the ball at the Carolina 38-yard-line with 10:18 left in regulation. Cutler's 12-yard touchdown pass to Kellen Davis six plays later stopped the Panthers' streak of 19 unanswered points and narrowed the Bears' deficit to 19-14.

    Then, eight seconds later, Panthers quarterback Cam Newton put the ball into the hands of Bears corner Tim Jennings, who returned it 25 yards for the score to give the Bears the lead at 20-19.

    There was also the little matter of the Panthers' defense apparently forgetting about that big No. 15 fella, who caught four passes for 36 yards -- three for first downs -- in the Bears' final drive.
    "They were playing one coverage and we just kept hitting them and hitting them and hitting them," Cutler explained. "That's pretty much it."

    Marshall recalled the last successful Cutler-led two-minute drill he witnessed first-hand.

    "It takes me back to 2008 with Denver," he said. "It was the same type of game up in Buffalo. We ran the same play all the way down the field.Javon Walker and Jay just drove us all the way down.

    "If teams want to play that way, we're going to take advantage of those opportunities. But at the same time, if they want to cheat a little bit over to me, we've got Earl in the slot and other guys like Devin Hester, who can make plays."

    Outside of that, Cutler's play was well below-par. There were dropped passes. And six first-half sacks. But Cutler contributed to at least half of them by hanging onto the ball too long. He threw high and behind his receivers. And the Bears' offense was simply out of rhythm, Cutler's passer rating hovering in the teens for much of the game (37.8 after three quarters and 83.3 for the game) while the possession ratio through three was a ghastly 30:22-14:38 in Carolina's favor.

    "No one played well, I didn't play well," Cutler said. "Offensively, those first 3 1/2 quarters were just ugly. We were getting good field position, the defense was fighting their butts off, we just couldn't get it going."
    We could make excuses for Cutler by saying his sore ribs affected his play, but he didn't, so I won't.
    "I don't know, I wish I knew," Bears coach Lovie Smith said when asked the same thing. "None of us know. I didn't get a shot to the ribs and I didn't have my best performance today and a few others could say the same thing."
    Cutler was amusing as always.

    "B [Marshall] said, 'They're booing us out there,' " Cutler said. "And I said, 'I'd boo us too.' I told those guys, 'It was a boo-worthy performance.' It was pathetic offensively, what we put out there. It wasn't up to standard. We have to get better. We know that, our fans know that. Luckily enough, we got out of there with a win but the first half was nothing to be proud of."

    Smith also went the selective-memory route, saying he couldn't remember anything about Cutler's performance Sunday other than the last drive. Ditto for Cutler's sprint downfield on a dead ball after Panthers corner Josh Normanintercepted his 2-point conversion attempt, resurrecting memories of Cutler's season-ending injury last season against the San Diego Chargers' following an interception. The problem this time being that you can't return a picked off 2-point conversion attempt, so there was no point to chase Norman.

    "There are a lot of other things I'm going to talk about," Smith said, trying to laugh it off, "but we're not going to go there right now."

    You can laugh off a lot of things when you win.

    "Everything's easier when you win games, period," Cutler said.

    That much is true.




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    I'm sitting here shaking, a little bit of the cold weather, a little bit of nerves, and he just starts smiling like, 'Well, here we go,' and just put me at ease right away.

    And we're still hearing what a lousy teammate he is from the media. I wish we had more like him. You take the bad with the good, as the old saying goes. And that's truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark86x View Post
    And we're still hearing what a lousy teammate he is from the media. I wish we had more like him. You take the bad with the good, as the old saying goes. And that's truth.
    That's a great point, you're right. I've had to adjust my thinking about Cutler. He's really a unique player. Not like any player I've been used to watching on the Bears.......but the more I see of him the more respect I have for him. He's growing on me anyway
    Trestman - Kromer - Tucker - DeCamillis

    I'm looking forward to seeing these guys coach. Hope they're good.


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    There may be some who do not like Cutler because they do not believe he has played at the level he was hyped up to be (due to surrounding him with poor talent). However, I think very few will attempt to argue that he is not the best quarterback in Bears history. What short memories we have of last year when Cutler went out due to injury and how poorly this team performed on both sides of the ball. Without Cutler, this is a completely different team that would not stand a chance of making the playoffs.

    I have to admit that as a fan every time I see the Bears try to march down the field in the two minute drill I do not believe they will get it due to watching the past quarterbacks of the Bears being completely inept. This year is a different team and if the defense can limit the other teams offense, even when our offense cannot perform for the first three quarters, our team with Cutler as our quarterback can march down the field and win the game.

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    I think he has the perfect fiesty, firey, no bullshit attitude that a competitor should have. I'm glad he is a dick. He doesn't take any shit. Welcome to Chicago.

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    I'm just glad most of the problems that he has seem to be fixable. Notice that although he played horribly, he didn't freak out on any player, and Marshall even noted that he pulled a Cool Joe (that is, Montana breaking the anxiety in the huddle during the 49ers winning drive against the Bengals in the SB) by smiling to everyone and telling them they're gonna score. I guess mechanically his worst problem, maybe his only, is holding onto the ball too long. I do think our TE's and Devin Hester add to that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark86x View Post
    And we're still hearing what a lousy teammate he is from the media. I wish we had more like him. You take the bad with the good, as the old saying goes. And that's truth.

    I'm sitting here shaking, a little bit of the cold weather, a little bit of nerves, and he just starts smiling like, 'Well, here we go,' and just put me at ease right away.


    This is exactly what I picked up on too. It's like, "Great". "I've got 'em right where I want 'em now watch this".

    Is there anyone here who thinks Kyle Orton or Rex Grossman would have felt the same? I don't know about Kyle but Rex would have been peeing in his pants. Pressure was not his friend yet Cutler thrives on it. I'd call that good since he's likely to see a lot more of it yet.
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    I forgot the exact play, but both Briggs and Urlacher missed on whoever had the ball. Briggs' miss was understandable, cause dude just caught it, but the way Urlacher went to get the guy was among the most unathletic tackles i've seen in recent memory. Maybe the wrong thread for this, but just think that this defense is being run by our D-line, CBs safeties and to a smaller extent, Briggs. If we had 2003 Urlacher, I think we'd have a perfect season right now, and would be the scariest team in football, even if we had Rex at QB...


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    I think he has the perfect fiesty, firey, no bullshit attitude that a competitor should have. I'm glad he is a dick. He doesn't take any shit. Welcome to Chicago.
    Look at this. I think Claws is trying to tell us that dicks are big in Chicago!

    Or did you just mean being a dick is popular there.

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    I forgot the exact play, but both Briggs and Urlacher missed on whoever had the ball. Briggs' miss was understandable, cause dude just caught it, but the way Urlacher went to get the guy was among the most unathletic tackles i've seen in recent memory. Maybe the wrong thread for this, but just think that this defense is being run by our D-line, CBs safeties and to a smaller extent, Briggs. If we had 2003 Urlacher, I think we'd have a perfect season right now, and would be the scariest team in football, even if we had Rex at QB...
    Meh. Brian isn't the dominating player he once was but few 34 year olds are what they were athletically when they're 26 or 27. That's about the peak for male athletic performance.

    But yeah, I saw him miss a tackle he probably would have made a few years back. But I'd also give some credit to that little bowling ball Tolbert. Those were some nice moves for a guy built like he is.
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