Anyone watch "Playbook" today on the NFL Channel?
They predict a win tomorrow.
But they said the #1 problem with the Bears right now is Jay Cutler. Specifically, they said he must learn to get rid of the ball quicker, and also, to step up in the pocket. They showed film against the Panthers to support this.
They also said he takes too long to see the open receiver.
Also, they said he's got to use his other receivers, that he's trying to force too much to B.Marsh. They pointed out that B.Marsh has had 50 targets, while our next receiver has only 14 targets. They showed film on how he's not going to the open guy, because he's trying to force things to B.Marsh.
It's exactly what many folks have been saying here on the messageboard.
They were not trashing Jay, but pointing out that this is something he has to fix.
They sure heaped a lot of praise on our defense.
Last edited by JustAnotherBearsFan99; 11-03-2012 at 05:47 PM.
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I can agree with all of that. I saw millen break down Urlacher and Briggs, and i must say, i feel that i stand corrected on Urlacher's play. His reading of Cam's eyes before the snap, and not buying into the play action, and moving accordingly showed he may have just started...
Cutler is definitely not playing well this season. He doesn't trust the protection and doesn't trust many of his receivers. These are pretty big issues for a QB, which is why he is primarily looking to Marshall and forcing balls to him. I think Cutler trusts Bennett and Jeffery, but with them being hurt a lot and other receivers sharing playing time (even when those two are available)... Cutler only has a single go to guy the majority of the time, Marshall.
The lack of faith in his protection is why Cutler isn't stepping up into the pocket as often as he should be.
Hopefully the OL can improve, giving Cutler a little more confidence to scan the field before deciding to throw. In addition, once that happens, hopefully the other receivers stop dropping balls... giving Cutler confidence that if he throws to them, they'll make the catch.
All that said, I believe some of the issue is due to Cutler being rattled and not necessarily that the OL can't protect him or his receivers can't make catches... I think some of it is only his perception and not reality. As a person who has been a competitive athlete, I can tell you that once you feel a teammate can't be trusted, it's kind of a sub-conscious thing that requires an actual conscious effort to change and/or a sub-conscious change in perspective that those teammates can now actually be trusted to do their part. Which unfortunately means that Cutler's teammates need to step up their game or the coaches have to start taking power away from him by limiting his options. I think ultimately it'll be a combination of the two, the OL needs to play better and the coaches need to reign in Cutler's options.
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Just wanna say, that's a damn good post.
That surprised me too. Urlacher is still very very valuable to the Bears defense. He may not be able to play like he did when he was younger, but he can still play at a high level. And the guy is brilliant, understanding and correctly reacting to what the offenses throw at us. Millen helped me understand that too.
Originally Posted by Henry Burris
We really need Briggs and Urlacher to stay healthy. Between those two, we have an incredibly valuable pair of LB's with the highest "football IQ's" that is priceless.
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I agree. It's a "head thing" now with Cutler. He's had a few years of taking brutal physical beatings due to Chicago not having a decent oline. It's crept into his head now, and his "pocket presence feel" isn't there. He's not stepping up. He's making bad decisions.
Originally Posted by Warlock
I don't blame him. I'm not trashing Jay here.
This is somewhat similar to what happened to Rex Grossman. I saw a confident and gifted player get reduced to "Bad Rex" and he never overcame that. I really believed we had our franchise QB in the beginning with Rex Grossman. Everybody hates him now, but in the beginning, the guy was incredible. But he left Chicago a bad QB. He had the physical skills. But he was damaged goods, it was in his head where he was screwed up. But it wasn't like that in the beginning.
I'm not saying "Bad Jay" = "Bad Rex"
They are very different. I'm just pointing out that Jay's been physically abused here to the point it's now "in his head" a bit. I'm sure he can overcome this. But he's going to need a better protection, and begin to trust (as you pointed out Warlock). He's got excellent receivers. He's got to trust them too, and not just B.Marsh
My #1 issue with the Bears is that they have miserably failed their quarterbacks, by failing to value the offensive line. It's a QB killer.
Can you imagine how different things would have played out, if we had, even an average offensive line when Jay arrived here? Same with receivers. If we had even had average receivers, and an average oline, things would have been so different.
I just hope we haven't ruined the guy.
Warlock, I thought that was a great post.
Last edited by JustAnotherBearsFan99; 11-04-2012 at 08:19 AM.
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Not to be the contrarian here but I thought that a lot of what warlock said was kind of nonsense, not to be a dick, respect to all posters/opinions. Specifically, the one thing you can never do in a team sport (or anything in life really) is "assume" people are going to fuck up. Once you start assuming people are going to fuck up you might as well pack it in, that kind of defeatist attitude makes losers out of everyone. So if you really were a competitive athlete I hope it wasn't a team sport lol.
You know what they say, when you ass-u-me you end up making an ass out of you and me.
That being said, cutler is having his worst season a a bear and he's starting to remind me of David Carr...shellshocked!
Whatever the reason, I'm hoping he has a great game today, and it's a precursor of good things to come.
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These "analysts" are obviosuly JC haters and have never played the game or had to deal w/a 300lb linemen coming at them. They obvsiously have no idea what JC is going through back there. What could these guys possibly know? I mean one is Sterling Sharpe, wr 7 years, and the other is Brian Baldinger, a NFL OG of 12 years...not like they played the game at a high level or anything; probably never broke film down either; these guys are just hacks...what do they know of taking on 300 lb linemen trying to kill the qb; it's not like they were back there throwing the ball afterall. Their opinion is completely irrelevent.
It's the other wr's fault for not getting open, the OL's fault for not holding the DL 5-6 sec's while BM gets open, it's the RB/HB/TE's fault for not being able to hold a 300LB DL for more time.....it couldn't possibly be JC's fault for holding the ball to long, or not trying to get it to the open guy while trying to force it to BM when he's covered by 3 DB's. That's all just JC hate.
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It's not really a conscious thing and it's not an assumption... it's a feeling that you, as a player, get when the guy next to you isn't going to do his job the majority of the time. It happens in other environments as well, it's just more notable in certain fields (like Sports and dangerous professions), because you are generally forced to rely on others to be successful.
Originally Posted by XxMidwayMonstersxX
In football, you have literally zero time to ponder whats going on around you during a play, this is what is referred to as "the speed of the game". Professional players especially, it's all mental conditioning to recognize and react, honed to perfection with countless repetition.
Cutler over the past few seasons has been mentally conditioned to feel pressured when he drops back and he has lost confidence in the protection. This has led to Cutler subconsciously glancing at the protection as he drops back, explaining his late releases and missing of open receivers (because much of passing in the NFL is timing-based)... he does this because he doesn't trust the OL to do their jobs. Some can call it being "shell-shocked", but as someone who has played and experienced similar issues with trusting teammates to do their part, I call it a loss of trust. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just saying it happens... especially with competitive players, where the will to win sometimes overrides better judgment.
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