After 8 games, grade the Chicago Bears
Title says it all. What grade would you give the following aspects
Head Coach Lovie Smith
Offensive Coordinator Mike Tice
Defensive Coordinator Rod Marinelli
A = Head Coach Lovie Smith
C- = Offensive Coordinator Mike Tice
A+ = Defensive Coordinator Rod Marinelli
D = Offensive Line (D+ for Webb, C- for Rachal, C for Garza, B for Lance Louis, F for Carimi)
C = Quarter Back
A = Brandon Marshall. The others = incomplete (do we have anyone other than BM?)
F = Tight Ends (Rodriguez our H-back too). They can't block or catch.
A = for Forte & C = Bush. A (Running Backs)
A = Defensive Line
A = Linebackers
A = Corners (best cornerback tandem in the NFL)
A = Safeties
B = Special Teams
A = Overall Grade
The offensive line needs a serious upgrade in the off-season. All of our TE's blow.
Last edited by JustAnotherBearsFan99; 11-04-2012 at 05:50 PM.
Trestman - Kromer - Tucker - DeCamillis
I'm looking forward to seeing these guys coach. Hope they're good.
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Head Coach Lovie Smith = A-
Needs to reign in Tice's playcalling. Huge improvement in timeouts and red flags. so far.
Offensive Coordinator Mike Tice = D+
Stick to the run, get Webb out of the nation and into the football game.
Defensive Coordinator Rod Marinelli = A+
No comment needed.
Special Teams Coordinator Dave Toub (Can't leave this guy out!!!) = A-
Offensive Line = D
Webb stinks, Carimi (still injured?) not doing as well as he should.
B needs to throw the ball away more (and quicker)
A => BM & AJ, B => EB, everybody else gets a C-
D- Can't block, can't catch (unless kd lang is on his back)
A Urlacher's knee is really slowing him down.
A- Being suckered for a TD on a faked field goal sticks in my craw.
B+ If we win our next two, and then the peckers, this becomes an A.
Head Coach Lovie Smith = B (He's consistently good, but not the best "on the field" general)
Offensive Coordinator Mike Tice = D+ (Needs improvement, but he's not as bad as some believe he is)
Defensive Coordinator Rod Marinelli = A (Has done a great job)
Offensive Line = D (Needs a lot of work in pass protection, but the run blocking has been decent thus far... would have been higher if not for all the penalties)
Quarter Back = C (Has been terrible at times and excellent at others, most of the time he is average though)
Wide Receivers = B (Marshall gets an A+, but the rest of the group brings the grade down)
Tight Ends = C- (Solid most of the time, but no standouts)
Running Backs = A (Forte looks great this year and Bush is very solid on spot duty)
Defensive Line = B+ (Not dominant, but very very good)
Linebackers = A- (Briggs is awesome. Urlacher isn't the same player he once was, but he's still pretty good. Roach is solid)
Corners = A+ (Tillman and Jennings are playing out of their heads)
Safeties = B- (Not amazing, but still good)
Special Teams = B (Very good)
Overall Grade = B (As close to a complete team as you'll see this year. Can still improve in some areas though)
Head Coach Lovie Smith A-
Offensive Coordinator Mike Tice D- (I wanted to give an F here but I decided not to)
Defensive Coordinator Rod Marinelli A+
Offensive Line D- (Lance Lewis is saving this group from an F). Garza C, Lance Louis B-, Carimi F-, Webb D & Rachel C-
Quarter Back C+
Wide Receivers B (A Marshall) everyone else minus Jeffery & Hester C. Jeffery incomplete. Hester D.
Tight Ends F They suck.
Running Backs A-
Defensive Line A-/B+
Corners A+ Tillman for MVP!
Safeties B They aren't the best but they get the job done.
Special Teams B Need to get Hester going for A.
Overall Grade B+ I am worried about our offense.
Originally Posted by The Benjamin
Head Coach Lovie Smith: A (The only reason he is not getting a grade of A+ is because of his failure to rein in Mike Tice from pulling another Mike Martz job with this offense. This is easily the best team Lovie Smith has had since 2006 through the first eight games, and this defense is definitely as strong as those great defenses from 2005 and 2006. There is not a reason in the world why this team can't win the division and make a serious run for a Super Bowl with the type of defense we have couple with the fact we have an above average offense on a good day.)
Offensive Coordinator Mike Tice: F (Tice is essentially Mike Martz v2.0. He rarely utilizes tight ends, if at all, during most games, though I can cut him some slack in knowing that most of our tight ends can neither block nor catch balls effectively. He doesn't call enough running plays, even though in the Titans game, there were more running plays called than passes; he should call more running plays than passes every game because that plays to the strength of this offensive line, which has gotten worse instead of better in the three years Tice has coached them. Lastly, on the point of drafting players, the only good drafted offensive player he has been in on is Alshon Jeffery; the others -- Carimi, Rodriguez, and Webb -- have all been flops/miserable failures, or grossly misused thus far in their young careers. When Lovie Smith goes to evaluate his coaching staff at the end of the year, he needs to strongly consider firing Tice because of his poor eye for talent and inability to improve the offensive line's pass blocking.)
Defensive Coordinator Rod Marinelli: A+ (Simply put, he's the best offensive mind the Bears have had since Ron Rivera during the 2004-06 seasons. He may be as intelligent at defense as guys like Buddy Ryan and Vince Tobin, but then I might be out of my mind for making such a conjecture. In his third season as the defensive coordinator, he has the best set of pass rushers in the entire NFL and arguably the best secondary in the league as well. As a whole, we have the league's top scoring and run defense, and our pass defense isn't too shabby either. I look for this defense to continue to make a splash the rest of the way for the Bears and finish at least 5-3 or 4-4 the rest of the way. If the Bears are fortunate enough to play in the Super Bowl again, it will be on the strength of Marinelli's defense.)
Offensive Line: F (This is the worst offensive line in the NFL, period. Webb and Carimi as an offensive tackle tandem are every bit as bad as the Webb and OMG couplet. The line has already given up 28 sacks on the year, and is on pace to give up 56 sacks, the very same total the 2010 team gave up and ten more than what last year's group allowed total. Mike Tice and Tim Holt have done a terrible job in coaching up this cast of characters, but then again, when you've neglected to improve the offensive line through free agency and the draft over the course of several years, what kinds of returns on the product on the field can you expect?)
Quarterback: B+ (I can't grade Cutler any higher than a B+ because of the poor play of the players surrounding him on the offense. When he's had time to throw the ball, he's been very good and very accurate. When he's not had time, well, he looks like Rex Grossman. I think Cutler is the best quarterback the Bears have had since Sid Luckman; he's certainly the most talented. But in order to be a difference maker in this offense, you have to have adequate protection surrounding you as a quarterback, and Cutler does not have that. He also doesn't have tight ends to use as safety valves when his receivers are available as they are all just pitiful. His saving grace is that he does have the best running back tandem in the NFL to lean on during a defensive front seven's onslaught. If we don't address the offensive deficiencies this offseason, I hope that Cutler is smart enough to ask for a trade because he will never reach his full potential here in Chicago.)
Wide Receivers: B- (The only reason I don't give this receiving corps a C is because of the great play of Brandon Marshall and, when he's been healthy, Alshon Jeffery. Those two guys have been godsends for this team this year, and they'll be in Chicago for years to come as both are still young, especially Jeffery. They are big, which is what the team has needed, and they almost make up for the fact that the Bears don't have a solid tight end to throw to. Earl Bennett has been okay, but inconsistent because of injury. And Devin Hester has been plain mediocre. Hester was never meant to be a receiver, but Jerry Angelo decided to go cheap and instead of solving our receiver problems a long time ago, forced Lovie Smith to utilize Hester as the team's #1 receiver. As a result, his kick return averages and effectiveness have suffered. I still believe that we need to go after another wide receiver in the draft to replace Hester, one who is over 6'0", and thus give us a tandem of receivers who are all over 6'0".)
Tight Ends: F (For the third year in a row, we have the worst usage of tight ends in the league. This year, we're on pace to have even fewer passing yards to tight ends than what we had in 2011. My question is this: didn't the ownership force Mike Martz to resign? The tight ends the Bears do have are below average to just ineffective and complete failures altogether. All of them drop the ball more than they hold on to it when Cutler targets them, particularly Kellen Davis, who has a ton of upside. Also, they are poor blockers, and they get called for false start and holding penalties a lot. This is inexcusable. While I'm glad the Bears have Brandon Marshall, I am a little peeved that the one tight end we had who had the potential to become something great -- Greg Olsen -- got traded to Carolina for the pick that would ultimately be the reason why we were able to get Brandon Marshall. I look for the Bears to possibly draft a tight end this year in the first three rounds, one who can block, who can catch, and has good size.)
Running Backs: A+ (The Bears have the best running tandem in the league, and they haven't disappointed. They are currently something like 7th or 8th in the league in rushing yards per game and are on pace to once again top the 2,000 yard barrier as a team. This tandem of Forte, Bush, and Allen is capable of leading the league in rushing yards gained if only Mike Tice would utilize them in that way. Currently, the Bears are averaging gainig approximately 128 rushing yards per game. It's capable of putting up more than 200 on any opponent since the one thing this offensive line can do is run block. Forte is a great receiver out of the backfield, and that aspect of his game has also been mismanaged badly by Tice. What I don't understand is why has Tice totally abandoned the run when that was what worked so well for him up in Minnesota when he was the head coach? One can only wonder.)
Defensive Line: A+ (This is the best defensive line in pro football. The defensive line is second in the league in sacks with 26 and are on pace to accrue approximately 52 on the season, which would be ten more than any other Lovie Smith coached team has ever amassed. It is number one in rushing yards allowed per game, although that might not be the case after today's game since Chris Johnson burned them for 141 yards and a touchdown, but considering that the CJ2K 80 yard scamper came against the scrubs and in garbage time, we need not give the starters too much grief.)
Linebackers: A+ (This is also the best linebacking corps in the league. Urlacher and Briggs continue to dominate, particularly Briggs. Urlacher is doing very well considering he damaged his knee at the end of last season and it is just now starting to heal. Nick Roach is the weak link to the group, but even he is playing relatively well. Both Briggs and Urlacher have returned interceptions for touchdowns this season.)
Corners: A+ (The best corners in the league, bar none. Both Tillman and Jennings are ball hawks and they create takeaways that sometimes lead to touchdowns. Tillman or Briggs should get consideration for NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Both are having career years and are relentless pursuers of the football versus opposing defenders. However, I just started talking about a linebacker under the corners slot to discuss. What is this world coming to? LOL Anyway, Tillman leads the league once again in forced fumbles, including forcing four against the Titans, and Jennings leads the NFL in interceptions with six. Tillman has two picks that were returned for touchdowns. Is there any reason why the Bears don't have the best defense in the league?)
Safeties: A- (These guys are good, but green. Neither of them have played long than three years, and this is both Major Wright's and Chris Conte's first year as starters. They occasionally have lapses in concentration and give up big plays, but overall, they are excellent compliments to the corners as part of the secondary. Both have tallied interceptions this year. D.J. Moore is also a solid player when he is in at nickel.)
Special Teams: A- (Believe it or not, this is a down year for the special teams unit. With the constant turnover of players on the special teams, even Dave Toub can't keep them as the top unit in the league year-after-year. Still, they do very well in stopping kick returns, punt returns, and kicking field goals. However, returning kicks and punts has been a problem this year, with only one punt return by Devin Hester that was returned to about the 10 yard line of the Titans being a return of any significance. There have been no returns thus far this season. Perhaps Hester is either worn down from his duties as a receiver or Father Time is catching up with him. One can only wonder.)
Overall Grade: B+ (This would be an A or an A- if there were so many deficiencies in the offensive playcalling, on the offense in general as a result of the poor play from the offensive line, and by the absolutely putrid corps of tight ends.)
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I agree with JABF 100%, so i'm piggybacking his response, but adding that we need to see how rodriguez does as a pass catcher. Shoulda kept clutts, and used this dude as a real H-back. Tice knows an H-back is not the same as a fullback.
Benji you left out EMERY.
Originally Posted by The Benjamin
Head Coach Lovie Smith: B, it's taken him awhile to exert his will on the O, which cost us the GB game, but he's starting to reign in his OC.
Offensive Coordinator Mike Tice: D looking at his patterns from Minny it seems that JC and Bates got in his ear early and everyone wanted to show off the shiny new car; well that turned out to be a PoS, but he's coming around. Cannot fault him for not using the TE's/HB's when the OL cannot pass protect on their own.
Defensive Coordinator Rod Marinelli: A so many people dogged us getting him, but you've seen a much more agressive DL/D in general since he's gotten more control of the D. This is far more like what we saw in 05 w/Ron Riv calling the shots.
Offensive Line: F, they are every bit as bad as we thought they'd be. Chilo and Louis are the only ones who's jobs should be safe next year.
Quarter Back: C, JC grades should be hire,but he single handedly cost us that GB game, our only loss, and his reluctance to throw the ball away or to the open man has hurt the team at times. He did have a nice comeback last week, and this week he was able to get things moving quicker.
Wide Receivers: B, I'm not near as down on this group as some our, and not just for BM, this is what I expected, it was going tobe the Jay Marshal show and the rest would be getting 4-5 catches a game, even Alshon. When AJ gets back I think you'll see JC get better as he'll have another big go up and get it target he trusts.
Tight Ends/HBacks: D- This crew has been asked to save the OL and hasn't helped much. They aren't great in the pass game either, but when 95% of the time your in blocking it's probably not the easiest thing to get involved inthe pass game. Davis and Adams have been the only 2 worth mentioning in the pass game, and both of them are spotty at best.
Running Backs: A Forte is the heart and soul of this O, and the sooner that Tice/Bates/Cutler figure that out the smoother this O will run. The complimentarty backs of Bush and Allen might make this the best backfield in the NFL, and none of them get fed enough imo. There is never an excuse(minus a Bears getting blown out and having to come from behind) that these guys shouldn't have a combined 30-35 touches(rush/pass) per week.
Defensive Line: A+ Man color me suprised at just how good Melton/Paea/Izzy have been, not to mention the back up crew; don't get all huffy about not mentioning Peppers, we all knew how good he would be. This right here is why the rest of the D looks so good, when you pressure a qb w/3-4 guys, occassionally 5, it sets this DB's and LB's up to make plays and that is exactly what is happening.
Linebackers: B, Briggs has been a beast, BU has been mostly seen and not heard, but he's still the QB of that D and is getting people in position to make the plays, and hell I'm not even sure who the 3rd guy is he's so rarely mentioned(Roach I know just making a point)
Corners: A+ Tillman is making a serious push for DPotY and the HoF, no CB in the game takes on the #1 WR AND gets TO's the way Peanut does, and it hasn't just been the last 2 years, but it seems players and analysts are finally starting to take note. Jennings might be the biggest suprise though, he's been every bit as good covering the other guy on the field, even outplaying Tillman early on.
Safeties: B the DL/CB's have been making this groups job a lot easier this year, and they have not been the weak spot many thought they'd be, and have actually been contributing also.
Special Teams: B, Gould is who is is, Podlesh is solid, Hester, while not the guy he once was is still scaring the bejeezus out of other ST's. I heard a stat on the radio last week that while we have one of the lowest punt/ko returns, we have the best starting field position...that is all b/c of DH.
Overall Grade B, that loss to GB drags the grade down a bit, but this team is in the right position w/a very rough 2nd half to be in contention for the NFCN and a deep playoff run.
Lets look at this again after we face Hou/SF the only other teams worth mentioning besides GB that they'll of faced.