Texans will double Marshall

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 11-09-2012, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rogelio

Wrong link? That link doesn't say anything about dropped passes. It specifically says it doesn't account for them. And it looks like it's saying Marshall is the 15th most effective receiver, which is horribly underrating him, anyway.

You're right. Sorry about that. Hey, FWIW, I'm not trying to trash B.Marsh. He's a GREAT receiver. But he's always had problems with dropped passes.

Here is the 3-year drop rate for NFL receivers (last 3 years). B.Marsh is 10th worst in the NFL. Hester is at #15. (LINK)

Drop Rate – The Bad
Now let’s get to the important number. Players like Marshall and Welker may have more drops than anyone else, but Welker doesn’t figure in the Bottom 15 of the 61 players who had at least 125 catchable balls thrown their way over the past three years, and Marshall was just in the Bottom 10. Instead, the worst offender was Roy Williams who has dropped 14.62% of catchable balls over three years. That was narrowly worse than James Jones of the Packers, with the Buccaneers’ Mike Williams bringing in the third highest mark at 13.42%. 49ers fans (and Alex Smith) may want to look away when he sees the drop percentage of some of his receivers (new and old) as Crabtree, Mario Manningam and Randy Moss all rated poorly.

Rank	Player	Current Team	Drops	Catchable	Drop Rate
1	Roy E. Williams	FA	19	130	14.62%
2	James Jones	GB	20	139	14.39%
3	Mike A. Williams	TB	20	149	13.42%
4	DeSean Jackson	PHI	25	193	12.95%
5	Brandon Gibson	SL	18	141	12.77%
6	Terrell Owens	FA	18	145	12.41%
7	Donald Driver	GB	22	179	12.29%
8	Randy Moss	SF	15	126	11.90%
9	Dwayne Bowe	KC	26	225	11.56%
10	Brandon Marshall	CHI	35	303	11.55%
11	Michael Crabtree	SF	22	195	11.28%
12	Mario Manningham	SF	19	174	10.92%
13	Pierre Garcon	WAS	22	206	10.68%
14	Santana Moss	WAS	24	233	10.30%
15	Devin Hester	CHI	14	136	10.29%

**drs23** · 11-09-2012, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by soulman

Well I'd expect Wade Phillips to say something like that. A little pre-game gamesmanship never hurts and the more misinformed you can keep the other guy the better.

Marshall will have his hands full just getting loose from Joseph so doubling him is just frosting on the cake and ever with two guys on him Marshall has still made plays. He may not make as many but he won't get shut out.

It's a great time to use the backs and Bennett more and force them away from doubling Marshall. Run Davis on some seam routes and let them decide whether they want the Safety over the top of Marshall or would rather let Davis match up one on one with a LB or SS. These were mistakes we made in play calling against the Pack so let's see if Tice has learned anything.

This is gonna be a great test to see whether or not the offense has grown up some since that game. We haven't faced a defense that tough since.

Another Texans fan here.

I think you may be correct on the gamesmanship from Wade. Someone who watched the interview stated something along the line that Wade was smiling when he made that statement and I can see that. He's got a pretty dry sense of humor.

I think Marshall may be bracketed on a few plays but to double him all game isn't really Wade's style.

I guess we'll see Sunday night.

Here's what some of the posters on Texans Talk had to say about that statement.

Looking forward to what should be the best test for our respective teams thus far. I see it being a close, low scoring game that will probably be decided late and will be very close.

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 11-09-2012, 01:14 PM

In case anyone is interested, Bennett has the best 3 year drop rate:

LINK

Drop Rate – The Best
To the best, and up at the top there’s a name that won’t surprise many Bears fans but may surprise many others. Earl Bennett, with just four drops from 127 catchable balls, has the lowest drop percentage of just 3.15%. That wasn’t much better than the ever-excellent Larry Fitzgerald who continues to show remarkable consistency with his hands, dropping an average of three balls each season and just 3.27% of catchable balls. Behind him are less-heralded players like Kevin Walter and Lance Moore, while San Diego fans will be happy to see Malcom Floyd with the fifth-lowest drop percentage, and new signing Robert Meachemdown in 11th.

Rank	Player	Current Team	Drops	Catchable	Drop Rate
1	Earl Bennett	CHI	4	127	3.15%
2	Larry Fitzgerald	ARZ	9	275	3.27%
3	Kevin Walter	HST	5	148	3.38%
4	Lance Moore	NO	5	136	3.68%
5	Malcom Floyd	SD	6	131	4.58%
6	Reggie Wayne	IND	14	300	4.67%
7	Jabar Gaffney	NE	10	197	5.08%
8	Jason Avant	PHI	8	152	5.26%
9	Austin Collie	IND	10	182	5.49%
10	Sidney Rice	SEA	8	141	5.67%
11	Robert Meachem	SD	8	137	5.84%
12	Michael Jenkins	MIN	8	136	5.88%
13	Anquan Boldin	BLT	13	219	5.94%
14	Mike Thomas	JAX	10	167	5.99%
15	Deion Branch	NE	10	165	6.06%

**gramster10** · 11-09-2012, 01:18 PM

Expect a pass rush shorter routes roll outs they can double all night even with all that jay can get the ball to his receivers.the bears could do it against the giants so it can be done.texas is a great team but so are the bears play smart may the best team win

**vmx12** · 11-09-2012, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Boochee Man

I disagree. I think riding Forte and Bush would be our best bet if we want to win this game. Our offensive line can blow defenses up in the running game. That's about the only thing they are good at.

I completely agree. Run the ball for the first few drives. Don't need to worry about the double team on B Marsh and don't have to worry about J.J. Watts killing Cutler as much

**soulman** · 11-09-2012, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

When has being double teamed stopped Cutler from throwing to Marshall?

Well it doesn't but how they do it makes all the difference in the world. If he works him on quick slant and "go up and get it" stuff they could have three guys on him and unless one has a step ladder he'll still make some grabs.

In the Packer game he played outside at WR all game long and they had him bracketed along the sidelines. Since then they've been moving him around more to create other matchups and make it more difficult for teams to do that effectively.

He'll still get some catches but expecting 9 or them for 3 TDs is probably a little much this week.

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 11-09-2012, 01:58 PM

In fairness to Cutler, he does have the ability to be extremely accurate placing the ball where ONLY B.Marsh can get it. As Soul points out, on those plays, B.Marsh goes up to get it, and it's placed so the worst case it's just nobody catching it.

**short faced bear** · 11-09-2012, 02:28 PM

More pixie dust STAT!!!

**bearsinhouston** · 11-09-2012, 02:37 PM

They even have stats on Pixie dust?! We have to be doing well there....

Originally Posted by short faced bear

More pixie dust STAT!!!

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 11-09-2012, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by bearsinhouston

They even have stats on Pixie dust?! We have to be doing well there....

It's been a tough year for the pixie dust. In a normal year Tice can zap an entire oline into shape with less than a teaspoonful of dust:

But Webb & company are a tough challenge. This is no ordinary pixie dust job. They have heavy equipment moving dust in 24 x 7. Thousands of metric tons daily.

Recently they had to give up with the tried and true "sprinkling dust technique" and go to the "Max Dust Enema" to pump it where it will do the most good:

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