Thread: Current oline rankings: Bears Pass blocking = 32nd. Run blocking = 16th.

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The second table lists each team's Adjusted Line Yards in each direction listed in official NFL play-by-play, along with rank among the 32 teams. Only five directions are listed because research so far shows no statistically significant difference between how well a team performs on runs listed middle, left guard, and right guard.

		LEFT END		LEFT TACKLE		MID/GUARD		RIGHT TACKLE		RIGHT END
	TEAM	ALY	Rank	ALY	Rank	ALY	Rank	ALY	Rank	ALY	Rank
1	SF	5.75	2	4.70	7	5.06	1	4.50	7	6.23	2
2	BAL	2.52	28	4.62	9	4.63	7	5.94	1	4.85	10
3	MIN	3.24	22	4.64	8	4.57	8	4.40	9	4.57	14
4	SEA	4.73	5	4.34	13	4.13	15	5.08	3	3.71	21
5	BUF	0.34	32	4.19	14	4.91	3	3.28	27	6.42	1
6	NE	4.60	7	5.09	3	4.48	9	4.25	13	2.20	29
7	DET	2.83	24	3.46	23	4.94	2	4.05	17	4.62	13
8	NYG	4.22	12	4.08	17	4.70	6	4.19	14	2.54	28
9	SD	4.31	11	3.91	20	4.27	10	5.35	2	3.85	20
10	HOU	5.88	1	3.00	27	4.10	16	4.54	5	4.07	18
11	CIN	1.37	31	3.42	25	4.81	4	4.10	15	4.98	7
12	NYJ	3.96	15	5.26	1	4.09	17	4.29	11	4.77	12
13	TB	4.58	8	5.15	2	3.70	27	4.69	4	4.31	15
14	DEN	2.63	26	2.28	30	4.72	5	3.40	26	5.37	5
15	WAS	4.45	10	3.62	22	3.99	20	3.42	25	4.87	9
16	CHI	3.48	20	3.43	24	4.09	18	3.83	21	5.86	3
		LEFT END		LEFT TACKLE		MID/GUARD		RIGHT TACKLE		RIGHT END
	TEAM	ALY	Rank	ALY	Rank	ALY	Rank	ALY	Rank	ALY	Rank
17	MIA	4.65	6	4.16	15	4.27	11	2.75	30	3.61	22
18	STL	4.15	13	4.41	12	4.15	12	3.14	28	4.94	8
19	NO	5.59	3	4.45	11	3.85	23	3.56	24	3.53	23
20	JAC	4.06	14	4.95	4	4.15	13	4.47	8	2.15	31
21	ATL	3.67	17	3.81	21	4.06	19	4.53	6	3.33	24
22	PIT	2.71	25	4.76	6	3.85	24	3.90	20	4.10	17
23	DAL	3.66	18	4.80	5	3.96	21	3.58	23	2.83	27
24	CLE	3.92	16	3.09	26	3.89	22	4.26	12	5.42	4
25	PHI	2.05	30	4.52	10	3.41	30	4.37	10	4.28	16
26	IND	4.49	9	4.03	18	3.42	29	3.95	18	3.21	25
27	TEN	3.52	19	4.10	16	3.75	26	4.08	16	1.61	32
28	GB	2.59	27	2.84	28	4.14	14	2.74	32	3.88	19
29	KC	2.85	23	1.61	31	3.77	25	3.80	22	4.79	11
30	CAR	3.46	21	0.89	32	3.46	28	2.74	31	3.18	26
31	OAK	2.14	29	3.92	19	3.12	31	3.94	19	2.16	30
32	ARI	4.78	4	2.35	29	2.53	32	2.97	29	5.13	6
x	NFL	3.86	x	3.84	x	4.14	x	4.03	x	4.06	x

The third table lists how often each team runs in each direction. Numbers may not add up to 100% due to carries listed without direction.

	Team	RB Carries	LEFT END	LEFT TACKLE	MID/ GUARD	RIGHT TACKLE	RIGHT END
1	HOU	265	15%	17%	43%	16%	10%
2	NE	259	11%	15%	54%	12%	9%
3	SEA	239	8%	29%	37%	22%	4%
4	KC	221	19%	10%	47%	16%	9%
5	NYG	219	14%	16%	49%	14%	6%
6	MIA	215	11%	18%	53%	12%	7%
7	CHI	213	8%	15%	54%	12%	11%
8	DEN	205	6%	14%	58%	15%	8%
9	MIN	202	8%	9%	65%	10%	7%
10	SD	202	12%	13%	53%	11%	10%
11	NYJ	198	9%	8%	62%	15%	6%
12	PIT	195	4%	11%	70%	11%	4%
13	TB	193	9%	18%	59%	9%	6%
14	GB	190	13%	14%	47%	12%	14%
15	SF	190	17%	14%	53%	9%	6%
16	BUF	188	5%	11%	67%	13%	4%
	Team	RB Carries	LEFT END	LEFT TACKLE	MID/ GUARD	RIGHT TACKLE	RIGHT END
17	WAS	188	21%	14%	35%	13%	17%
18	IND	185	21%	15%	51%	5%	8%
19	CLE	184	3%	18%	60%	15%	4%
20	ATL	178	13%	8%	51%	13%	14%
21	ARI	177	8%	24%	44%	15%	10%
22	PHI	175	15%	16%	27%	15%	26%
23	STL	174	12%	16%	36%	26%	10%
24	BAL	172	8%	14%	58%	15%	6%
25	DET	170	9%	16%	51%	16%	7%
26	DAL	168	14%	12%	46%	18%	10%
27	CIN	167	8%	17%	50%	17%	8%
28	TEN	167	7%	12%	63%	13%	5%
29	OAK	159	18%	19%	35%	15%	11%
30	JAC	158	13%	6%	63%	6%	11%
31	NO	155	10%	6%	63%	11%	10%
32	CAR	149	13%	11%	56%	6%	13%
x	NFL	x	11%	14%	52%	13%	9%

What!!!!!! I don't believe it!!!!!! Those stats must be wrong.

Yeah we don't pass block worth a damn and there are also times when Cutler tries to make a play and holds the ball too long so it's not just the line.

Better game planning, play calling and sequencing would help but as much as anything those short quick slants we used in that last drive against the Panthers would go a long way towards cutting down on sacks and pressures.

They should also spend and entire week or practice perfecting screen passes. With backs like Forte and Bush who can roll up big yards off that type of play it's almost criminal that we are using them more and executing them better when we do. That's one way to back that all out pass rush off a bit but they have to be well blocked.

I will probably show my ignorance here, but am I reading that 2nd chart correctly - that we're 3rd best in the NFL running behind Carimi's side?

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I will probably show my ignorance here, but am I reading that 2nd chart correctly - that we're 3rd best in the NFL running behind Carimi's side?

I didn't read the chart but Carimi and Louis are both great run blockers and Louis is finally living up to his rep as a good pass blocker just as Tice said he was. Now if we can only get Carimi up to that level on pass plays we're getting somewhere.

Originally Posted by inchibearfan

This is exactly what I got out of it too; it is one of the only bright spots on this line. That right side may eventually anchor itself with pass blocking and run blocking it is very well according to the stats. The left side needs to be replaced.

I wish we could break these stats down and look at the last 4 games vs the first 4 games. It seem like the left side may have been better run blocking in recent weeks, once Rachal had been in place a bit. The first few weeks were a disaster on the left side. Now they do look significantly better to me run blocking. In fact, there have been a few plays that were incredible springing Forte. Another thing I wonder about is accounting for plays where one side may pull a guard or tackle. The play may go to the middle or other side, but the key block may come from the opposite side. I have seen some great pulling plays (even from Webb).

Stats are great, but sometimes there is more to the story than the stats alone.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I wish we could break these stats down and look at the last 4 games vs the first 4 games. It seem like the left side may have been better run blocking in recent weeks, once Rachal had been in place a bit. The first few weeks were a disaster on the left side. Now they do look significantly better to me run blocking. In fact, there have been a few plays that were incredible springing Forte. Another thing I wonder about is accounting for plays where one side may pull a guard or tackle. The play may go to the middle or other side, but the key block may come from the opposite side. I have seen some great pulling plays (even from Webb).

Stats are great, but sometimes there is more to the story than the stats alone.

Well that's no lie or like they quote goes; "Lies, damn lies, and statistics". They're useful in certain ways but all too often taken out of context.

What is obvious though is that once again this year our line struggles in protection. We don't need those stats to tell us what out eyes can see. We can't in any way, shape, or form be even close to being considered the most complete team in the NFL as long as that issue still exists.

My guess is that Phil Emery simply isn't gonna buy into the "these guys will get better with coaching" argument any longer. He's made some master moves to fill other holes and upgrade our depth and the only glaring weaknesses that still exist are on the line. There's no logical reason to believe that won't be the next are he attempts to fix.

Louis is a keeper and there's no way we replace Carimi this soon so I'd say providing we extend Louis' deal, and we will, those two are out 2013 starters on the right side. We all know that Webb is on borrowed time and though he's improved some it's not nearly enough or happening fast enough to think he's the answer at LT. I'd look for us to make a move in FA next spring.

Rachal may or may not be the guy. It would be much easier to tell if he wasn't playing next to Webb and instead he had a guy like Long or Clady next to him. He's a bull but he's pretty inconsistent too and that was the rap on him while he played in SF. Time will tell but I'd spend a high draft pick on a young stud OG/OC type and let him see if he can beat him out.

Same at OC. Bring in the next generation interior lineman and see whether he plays better at OG or OC and give both Rachal and Garza something to think about.

The time has come (actually it's passed) to spend some $$$ and a high draft pick on that line. Youth and some competition for starts has worked wonders s far as the DLine is concerned so just rinse and repeat that approach with the OLine and maybe by next year we won't be talking about it much anymore or at least not analyzing it in a negative sense.