Are we overreacting to the loss?

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11-12-2012, 07:04 PM
bearsinhouston

Personally, I have not seen any hysterics, so I would have to say no there is no over reaction.

As far as reactions -- all I can do is give my own. I am dissappointed because we played a very good team and we could have beat them with a better game plan. The OL played pretty well, but on one play where JC was flushed from the pocket, he gets hit and knocked out of the game. SO not sure whether to congratulate the line or blame them. I guess some of both is in order.

I'm not a OL guru so it takes me longer to go back and review. I haven't done that yet. How much help were we committing to the OL and how much did that hurt our offensive capability and flexability?

I am in the minority I think in that I did not think that Cutler played very well when he was in. I have no idea why he was tossing balls in the TO fest at the beginning of the game. We should have been running the ball. And Bush should have gotten the ball more.

We also had too many drops. The Texans are a good team and they made some good plays in the secondary, but as has been mentioned, there were many plays were the dbs were not there and we just whiffed. Even more maddening, we had players WIDE open in the second half and Cambell just did not see them, sometimes inexplicably checking down for losses.

Those are the things that make me mad. We had a real chance to beat a very good team and take best record in the NFL. We didn't because of:
1) bad game plan
2) inneffective TE's
3) QB not seeing open players
4) Not leaning more on a ball control running game in inclimate weather.

Cutler was not playing that well, Schaub was not much better. This was really a ball control running game. Not sure it takes a PhD in football to see that through the rain.

The one thing that was a pleasant surprise - I expected the Texans to be a good team and to be a handful. They were both. I actually expected that if we lost it would be due to WATTS dismembering JC because our line could not hold their D. That didn't happen and I'm not exactly sure why. I don't think our OL took a major step overnight, nor do I think that the Texans forgot how to apply extreme pressure overnight. I can't explain it, but happily we were able to hold back most of the pressure I expected.

I always said that if we gave Cutler time, he would win. That didn't happen. He had decent time but was not completing passes. Granted, it was horrible weather, but I felt that given time we would be ok. For the most part we had time, but we showed other weaknesses.

We did not use Bennett and Bush. Those are some pretty good weapons and Bush especially in that weather should have been worked to death. So while I know that we have a good team, I wonder if decisions like that will continue to cost us games. Not to say that it was all game plan -- Cambell and all our TE's were pathetic.

Marshall missed a sure TD, but I don't even count that because the Texans also had the same weather and they missed a few too. It's all of the above stuff THAT I FEEL WE HAD COMPLETE CONTROL of that bothers me. Bush fumbling in the rain and Marshall missing the TD were the same issues the Texans were having. I'm not crying about that stuff.

Anyway, that's my take on it. Hopefully, we learned something and can come up with something better for SF. However, if Cambell's vision of the field is what I saw yesterday, he needs to just keep handing the ball off to our RB's. He has no business throwing the ball. That was not a vereran QB -- he was playing like a scared rook. I thought he was better than that.
11-12-2012, 08:25 PM
4th and 26

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

I was sick about the loss, but this morning I was thinking that a lot of us are overreacting. Looking back at last night, it really was two great defenses playing some great football. Our "D" played a great game IMHO, against a very solid offense.

Turnovers hurt us. Losing Cutler killed us. If Jay had played the 2nd half we wouldn't have ended the game with those 6 measly points. I believe we would have won. But we didn't, so time to learn from the game and move on to San Francisco & get back on the winning track.

We're 7-2 and have a great team. We don't have a perfect team. I do believe the offense is still learning and evolving, and by the playoffs I think we'll be significantly better. Surely none of us should be overreacting to this loss. It's not like we were blown out. We got beat by a great team, which, by the way, was beaten badly by Green Bay.

Any given Sunday.....

To be honest, losing Cutler probably helped us since he was doing his classic Brett Favre imitation keeping both teams in the game.
11-12-2012, 08:28 PM
bearsinhouston

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Originally Posted by 4th and 26

To be honest, losing Cutler probably helped us since he was doing his classic Brett Favre imitation keeping both teams in the game.

I hate to say it, but I agree. I really like Cutler, but it was ugly. When Cambell came in and they started running the ball with Bush, I thought it was going well. Then they let him start throwing and it all fell apart.
11-12-2012, 08:47 PM
4th and 26

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Originally Posted by bearsinhouston

I hate to say it, but I agree. I really like Cutler, but it was ugly. When Cambell came in and they started running the ball with Bush, I thought it was going well. Then they let him start throwing and it all fell apart.

I think that is a lot of rust yet he is not an elite qb but still a better upgrade than what we have had in the past.
11-12-2012, 09:57 PM
bearsinhouston

oh, much better than anyone recent. Have to go back to the Jim Miller days before we had a decent QB.

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Originally Posted by 4th and 26

I think that is a lot of rust yet he is not an elite qb but still a better upgrade than what we have had in the past.
11-12-2012, 10:10 PM
inchibearfan

The one interception to Davis was not all on Cutler. If Davis does not get bumped off his route (this is assuming, probably to my detriment) it was a completion. I have not reviewed the film but I do assign the blame to the one to Marshall. Cutler was 7/14 with one pick being a defensive pass interference that led to a pick, two dropped passes by Davis if I recall, a drop by Hester, a drop by Marshall. 5 out of the 7 throws that were not completions that I can recall, it may be 6 of those (but cannot remember the other pass) were not on Cuter. So, 2 bad passes out of 14 in bad conditions would be what you would call a bad game?
11-12-2012, 10:17 PM
bearsinhouston

I didn't break them down. I did note throughout most of the half that he was in that he was not as accurate as I would like (weather likely a factor) and I felt he was forcing the ball into coverage that he should not have been - especially given the weather and the TO swapfest at the beginning that indicated at least to me that this was not the time for an arial shoot-out. I just did not think he played well. Schaub did not either and both QBs were facing very stout defenses so I am sure that was also a part.

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Originally Posted by inchibearfan

The one interception to Davis was not all on Cutler. If Davis does not get bumped off his route (this is assuming, probably to my detriment) it was a completion. I have not reviewed the film but I do assign the blame to the one to Marshall. Cutler was 7/14 with one pick being a defensive pass interference that led to a pick, two dropped passes by Davis if I recall, a drop by Hester, a drop by Marshall. 5 out of the 7 throws that were not completions that I can recall, it may be 6 of those (but cannot remember the other pass) were not on Cuter. So, 2 bad passes out of 14 in bad conditions would be what you would call a bad game?
11-12-2012, 10:24 PM
inchibearfan

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Originally Posted by bearsinhouston

I didn't break them down. I did note throughout most of the half that he was in that he was not as accurate as I would like (weather likely a factor) and I felt he was forcing the ball into coverage that he should not have been - especially given the weather and the TO swapfest at the beginning that indicated at least to me that this was not the time for an arial shoot-out. I just did not think he played well. Schaub did not either and both QBs were facing very stout defenses so I am sure that was also a part.

I would agree that his accuracy did seem a bit off but I don't think he played a bad game, I wouldn't call it a good performance either. I did feel that we were going to score at least one touchdown in the second half if our receivers could hold onto the balls. This was not a game to be calling a whole lot of pass plays in and Bush should have ran it a lot more given the run he had broken (which he fumbled).
11-12-2012, 11:15 PM
bearsinhouston

I just don't get the coaching for this game on so many levels....

First, I don't get why we didn't run more given the weather. Then, when Bush proves effective but fumbles, he sits. We sit one of our top weapons when we have a game control game. So we send the message that mistakes will not be tolerated. ok. Then you have hester dropping balls and TE's out there stinking it up. No one else has to sit. And I still say that the passing game was not as important as the running game given the weather. You have to do some of both or they will shut down the run, but I think we needed to have emphsized the run. So when we could have sacrificed sitting a passing weapon that was not performing (ok a dull weapon like Davis), we don't -- but we sit Bush. Then we bring him out later and he does well again -- and then no more plays to him again.

Just don't get it. When Tice saw that Cambell was checking down for losses with wide open WRs downfield, he should just have started calling Bushes number. Not sure what the deal was there either.

As far as allowing the big running plays that allowed Houston to score, that was just a chess adjustment chess match that the Texans coaching staff won. They didn't deviate from the run. After we adjusted to contain the outside, they re-adjusted to run inside. And they were able to break the runs.

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Originally Posted by inchibearfan

I would agree that his accuracy did seem a bit off but I don't think he played a bad game, I wouldn't call it a good performance either. I did feel that we were going to score at least one touchdown in the second half if our receivers could hold onto the balls. This was not a game to be calling a whole lot of pass plays in and Bush should have ran it a lot more given the run he had broken (which he fumbled).

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