Thread: Bears may give Rodriguez a look at tight end

I think I mentioned this in another thread and posted it in the workouts thread, but Eldridge was waived the other day.

I believe McCown filled that spot.

Originally Posted by jackiejokeman

Well then we are set. Sure hope we dont need him.

How long before JCUT has to be annouced in or out, or game day decision?

There isn't much to go on and, as usual, Smith hasn't said anything concrete.

Originally Posted by bearsinhouston

Who is our TE coach? Is it really possible that 5 out of 5 TE's are not effective and that the TE coach does not play a part in that? Either we are totally clueless at seeing TE talent, are incredibly unlucky in picking TE's, or are not good at developing TE talent.

I just don't think when you have a clean sweep like this that the responsible coach should not be part of the issue.

Mike DeBord is the TE coach but let's face it he had nothing to do with Davis playing as poorly as he did. That's on Davis. After that fumble you would have thought he'd have busted his ass to make up for it but he didn't he played "lazy".

You don't ever see that kind of play from a guy on the defense.

MM is right. The guys is strictly a red zone tool and nothing more. I noticed the same thing about him that I notice about Hester. The lack the spatial perception to adjust to the ball in flight or in other words they're like and outfielder who can't judge a fly ball.

Some guys can and other become 1st baseman. Davis is a 6'7" 270lb 1st baseman and Hester is the SS. They can make certain catches when the ball is thrown to a certain spot but unlike others they can't make all the catches and they shouldn't be starting period.

I've coached a lot of baseball and softball and when you're evaluating guys for the outfield you watch how they handle certain catches. They can all make the "can of corn" catch and some can make a running catch to their glove side but if it's hit straight at them they can't tell if it's gonna fall short or go over their head. They can't make and over the shoulder catch, or a back hand catch and if a ball is slicing away from then (like the wind will sometimes take a pass) they aren't able to adjust. They plant their feet and reach for the ball just like Davis did on that big drop in the 2nd half.

I call those guys infielders in baseball and 2nd and 3rd stringers in football.

"Use at your own risk".

Couple of random thoughts here:

1.) Kellen Davis Numbers:

SEASON	TEAM	GP	REC	TGTS	YDS	AVG	LNG	TD	FD	FUM	LST
2009	CHI	16	9	13	75	8.3	18	3	5	0	0
2010	CHI	16	1	3	19	19.0	19	1	1	0	0
2011	CHI	16	18	35	206	11.4	32	5	13	0	0
2012	CHI	9	11	26	150	13.6	25	2	8	1	1

Last year the guy was as solid as any non-star tight end in the league. If you project his utilization level up to that of a Rob Gronkowski circa 2011, then Davis' numbers for 2011 would have been as follows:

64 receptions for 732 yards, 18 TD's and 46 first downs.

We are basically saying "what would Kellen Davis's numbers look like if he had the same number of targets as Rob Gronkowski, given his current level of production?" Gronk had 124 targets in 2011, the math works like this:
18 / 35 = 51.4% completion rate, then --> 51.4% x 124 targets = 64 receptions, then --> 64 receptions x 11.4 yrd avg. =732. You do the same with TD's and FD's.

Those are some impressive F-ing numbers guys! Kellen Davis can play if we use him right. Maybe somebody needs to call Martz and see what the hell he was doing "correctly" to get that production out of Davis? Just a thought.

2.) Next random thought is "This guy has had 1 turnover in his entire professional career!" Just one, and we are killing him over it. I know it was a critical mistake but you have to give some credit to Manning, he looks like he's been working out (muscle hamster) pretty hard and he put a hell of a hit on the ball. Watch this video, its crappy but you can clearly see that Davis turns around and immediately gets BLASTED by Manning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsWJAWsw9Zc

Don't get me wrong, Davis needs to improve his catching. He's hauling in only 42% of passes thrown his way this year, piss poor IMHO. His blocking is mediocre as hell too, somebody needs to light a fire under his ass because we don't have anyone better than him on the squad this year.

3.) Who the hell said Davis was going to be great this year? It's not like Davis all of the sudden said "Hey I'm going to hype myself up! Over-promise and under-deliver baby!!! That's my motto, you know it."


Hell no, it was the coaches. Particularly it was Tice shooting his fat stupid mouth off again.

4.) Final random thought is that we are loaded at the skill positions right now. When fully healthy, I would not trade our receiving core and RB's for any other team's receivers/Rb's. Marshal/Jeffery/Bennett/Forte/Bush is the best 5 man set up in the league IMO.

What I'm getting at here is, even IF we had the world's best TE, what makes you think we could use him? We are already loaded with talent and we can't get anyone going except B. Marshall. You really think a skilled TE is the linch-pin that's holding us back? I sure don't.