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    NFL Total QBR - 2012 Season Leaders

    This week's updated QB ratings. Cutler is definitely an NFL bottom feeder this year. His QB rating has dropped to 48.4.

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    NFL Total QBR - 2012 Season Leaders


    RK PLAYER PASS EPA RUN EPA SACK EPA PEN EPA TOTAL EPA ACT PLAYS QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
    1 Peyton Manning, DEN 61.6 2.1 -7.1 7.0 63.6 386 82.3 50.2 84.8
    2 Tom Brady, NE 77.8 1.1 -9.8 4.5 73.5 417 78.5 43.8 80.1
    3 Matt Ryan, ATL 89.1 8.5 -18.6 4.1 83.2 422 77.7 42.6 79.2
    4 Andrew Luck, IND 60.4 17.3 -13.0 10.7 75.5 451 79.8 42.3 77.6
    5 Aaron Rodgers, GB 66.3 11.1 -22.7 7.5 62.2 425 67.4 32.1 73.1
    6 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 72.8 5.7 -15.9 0.8 63.4 373 57.3 26.3 71.8
    7 Jake Locker, TEN 15.3 4.3 -3.4 1.8 17.9 158 23.8 10.7 71.1
    8 Alex Smith, SF 41.7 3.4 -13.4 2.5 34.2 294 43.1 18.6 69.8
    9 Drew Brees, NO 66.5 -0.5 -13.6 -0.6 51.8 425 61.4 26.2 69.3
    10 Robert Griffin III, WSH 48.3 7.4 -13.6 8.0 50.2 395 56.3 23.5 68.7
    RK PLAYER PASS EPA RUN EPA SACK EPA PEN EPA TOTAL EPA ACT PLAYS QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
    11 Eli Manning, NYG 51.2 -0.7 -8.5 8.2 50.1 418 56.5 21.8 66.6
    12 Matthew Stafford, DET 57.1 4.7 -11.3 5.8 56.3 456 60.8 23.0 66.1
    13 Matt Schaub, HOU 38.2 -0.9 -9.8 1.6 29.1 318 39.3 12.9 63.1
    14 Tony Romo, DAL 59.1 1.8 -16.5 0.3 44.7 418 46.9 12.2 59.6
    15 Joe Flacco, BAL 44.5 3.3 -16.8 7.1 38.1 387 42.1 10.0 58.4
    16 Josh Freeman, TB 41.8 1.1 -13.3 1.2 30.8 339 36.3 8.2 58.0
    17 Russell Wilson, SEA 42.0 3.2 -15.5 7.5 37.3 370 37.6 6.9 56.1
    18 Andy Dalton, CIN 39.1 2.6 -14.2 3.3 30.8 384 37.0 5.1 54.4
    19 Sam Bradford, STL 51.3 3.5 -20.5 -4.1 30.1 367 33.9 3.4 53.1
    20 Christian Ponder, MIN 33.4 1.5 -17.4 6.6 24.1 404 35.9 2.4 52.0
    RK PLAYER PASS EPA RUN EPA SACK EPA PEN EPA TOTAL EPA ACT PLAYS QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
    21 Carson Palmer, OAK 35.1 -0.5 -14.7 8.4 28.3 447 36.0 -1.1 49.2
    22 Ryan Fitzpatrick, BUF 29.3 3.4 -11.9 2.8 23.6 397 31.9 -1.1 49.1
    23 Philip Rivers, SD 29.3 -0.7 -11.9 4.7 21.4 364 28.8 -1.4 48.8
    24 Matt Hasselbeck, TEN 23.5 0.2 -9.6 0.5 14.6 266 20.8 -1.2 48.5
    25 Jay Cutler, CHI 23.5 10.4 -16.7 2.6 19.9 335 26.2 -1.6 48.4
    26 Ryan Tannehill, MIA 32.7 -0.4 -15.2 7.6 24.8 384 29.6 -2.3 48.0
    27 Michael Vick, PHI 36.1 3.7 -20.5 7.5 26.9 431 32.5 -3.3 47.5
    28 Blaine Gabbert, JAC 23.4 -0.4 -14.1 4.6 13.4 356 20.1 -9.4 41.3
    29 Matt Cassel, KC 14.7 4.8 -11.1 1.6 10.0 327 17.2 -9.9 40.1
    30 Kevin Kolb, ARI 21.1 5.9 -21.9 2.5 7.6 244 11.2 -9.1 38.0
    RK PLAYER PASS EPA RUN EPA SACK EPA PEN EPA TOTAL EPA ACT PLAYS QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
    31 Cam Newton, CAR 16.2 8.0 -18.6 3.7 9.4 392 16.1 -16.5 36.4
    32 Mark Sanchez, NYJ 17.4 -0.8 -19.3 1.4 -1.3 356 5.1 -24.4 28.7
    33 John Skelton, ARI 1.8 -0.8 -7.3 0.7 -5.6 205 -3.2 -20.3 21.3
    34 Brandon Weeden, CLE -2.4 -1.8 -13.0 0.2 -17.0 398 -8.9 -41.9 19.9
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    I am a little surprised he is that low. I would have thought closer to 20, but he has not been very effective so I guess that unfortunately I am not all that surprised.

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    23 Philip Rivers, SD 29.3 -0.7 -11.9 4.7 21.4 364 28.8 -1.4 48.8
    24 Matt Hasselbeck, TEN 23.5 0.2 -9.6 0.5 14.6 266 20.8 -1.2 48.5
    25 Jay Cutler, CHI 23.5 10.4 -16.7 2.6 19.9 335 26.2 -1.6 48.4
    26 Ryan Tannehill, MIA 32.7 -0.4 -15.2 7.6 24.8 384 29.6 -2.3 48.0
    27 Michael Vick, PHI 36.1 3.7 -20.5 7.5 26.9 431 32.5 -3.3 47.5
    28 Blaine Gabbert, JAC 23.4 -0.4 -14.1 4.6 13.4 356 20.1 -9.4 41.3
    Rivers and Vick are down there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearsinhouston View Post
    I am a little surprised he is that low. I would have thought closer to 20, but he has not been very effective so I guess that unfortunately I am not all that surprised.
    He's been dragged down by a few truly terrible games statistically (GB, Hou) and a fair number of avoidable TOs. Bennett has been overlooked. Hester has been over-targeted. There have been too many drops. The OL was a sieve there for a while. The running game has been disappointing. And on and on...

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    Stats can often lie,and in this case they do.
    Cutler is 7-1 in 2012,and that with a stout defense;and a porous offensive line.
    Drops kill the QB rating too,and there has been a ton of them.
    Which QB is #1 in the 4th quarter? oh yeah,Cutler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claymore58 View Post
    Stats can often lie,and in this case they do.
    Cutler is 7-1 in 2012,and that with a stout defense;and a porous offensive line.
    Drops kill the QB rating too,and there has been a ton of them.
    Which QB is #1 in the 4th quarter? oh yeah,Cutler.
    Yeah, stats do lie. Or don't tell the whole story anyway unless you dig a little deeper. Jay has made too many mistakes no doubt but more often than not he has been let down by his surrounding cast. His protection has been awful more often than adequate. His receivers have dropped too many catchable balls (inclusing a couple of TDs). His running game has been mismanaged and ineffective. And several of his picks are attributable to miscues by the intended receivers. Its been a horror show out there on O as much as the D has made it one for our opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claymore58 View Post
    Stats can often lie,and in this case they do.
    Cutler is 7-1 in 2012,and that with a stout defense;and a porous offensive line.
    Drops kill the QB rating too,and there has been a ton of them.
    Which QB is #1 in the 4th quarter? oh yeah,Cutler.
    Those are good points. We are 7-2, but Cutler has definitely struggled so far. Without that "stout defense" we'd be screwed right now. It's not all on Cutler, but he's not played well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by claymore58 View Post
    Stats can often lie,and in this case they do.
    Cutler is 7-1 in 2012,and that with a stout defense;and a porous offensive line.
    Drops kill the QB rating too,and there has been a ton of them.
    Which QB is #1 in the 4th quarter? oh yeah,Cutler.

    I love how people blindly say that the statistics are lying and then promptly point to our record (another statistic lol). It is not valid to say that we are 7 - 2 and nothing else matters. The entire point of recording statistics is to attempt to predict the likelihood of future success.

    QBR is not perfect but its pretty darn comprehensive. If someone is averaging as low as Cutler is this season over as many games as they have played then he is bad, plain and simple (or at least playing bad).

    The only statistic that is lying is that 4th quarter statistic you cited. Of course he does well when the other team is so whooped they don't have any fight left in them or they are in some crappy prevent D that allows him to make completion after completion.
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    Michael Vick has a higher QBR than John Elway....


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    Cutler gets a raw deal... He does well under the crappy circumstances He has played around as a Chicago Bear... Not many players could take the beatings He has been taking....yet He comes back again and again time try and win for us...Chicago BEARS fans...I am a BEARS fan, Ditka fan and a Cutler fan....GO BEARS....

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