Thread: NFL Fines Allen $21k for Hit on Louis...............

Small consolation since we lost our best lineman for the rest of the year but at least it establishes the fact that lineman can be defenseless players too.

I don't believe he intended to hurt Louis beyond the punishment doled out by the block itself but it was "overboard" just like Suh's tackle of Cutler was "overboard" in that first Lions game and the fine against the Houston LB because that hit was "overboard" too.

I'm not necessarily a fan of all these rules but if they're gonna have them then at least enforce them consistently. Carimi got nailed with a hit after the whistle earlier in the year against GB and got a flag when he retaliated. That was another example of an illegal hit against a defenseless player but some were saying that it doesn't count because he was a lineman.

Well it sure as hell should count and the officials need to be instructed to start flagging stuff like this too. It not only needs to cost the player $$$ but it needs to cost the team yardage and maybe the coaches will police it better. If the NFL can issue a fine for it then it was an illegal hit period.

IDK, I don't put Allen in the "Dirty Player" category but when I watch that hit it was clear that he launched himself at Lance , hence the fine.

Whatever. It doesn't bring back Louis. It's chump change to Allen anyway.

I'm surprised there isn't some rule that would state "if your actions remove a player from playing the rest of the season you will be fined x amount regardless of intent."

If a player, through a illegal cheap shot blatantly injures another player so badly that he misses games, then he should not be allowed to play for an equal amount of games. Maybe you'd see guys like Suh wake up and smell the roses.

Eye for an eye.

Originally Posted by omc1969

IDK, I don't put Allen in the "Dirty Player" category but when I watch that hit it was clear that he launched himself at Lance , hence the fine.

I don't see him that way either. More a high motor guy whose tough to rein in but in this case that block was meant to punish not just move a guy out of that path. Leaving your feet and launching yourself into an opponent like that is an illegal hit. It doesn't matter if it comes on a block or a QB hit it's still illegal.

The fine was well deserved and it should have been flagged as well. The NFL needs to instruct the refs to do so regardless of the position of the player involved. Head hunting and cut blocks need to disappear but maybe Allen deserves just one good one of the latter to let him know just how displeased the Bears are with him. Some scores are best settled on the field of battle.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

If a player, through a illegal cheap shot blatantly injures another player so badly that he misses games, then he should not be allowed to play for an equal amount of games. Maybe you'd see guys like Suh wake up and smell the roses.

Eye for an eye.

Well now there's a thought 99 but they'll never get it through the rules committee. The league office seems to have enough trouble with guys appealing suspensions so they won't welcome more. Maybe the just do this and make it something that can't be appealed. It's automatic just like a major penalty vs a minor penalty in hockey.

But I do agree that there should be more severe penalties than just a fine. I think they need to bump that fine up to about $50k for a first offense and $100k for a second and a third gets you $250k and the rest of that season off.

I'd also start adding a one game suspension to the first offense and a four game suspension to the second on top of the fine. It's a reasonable penalty since that move cost another team the services of it's player. That somewhat serves the eye for an eye approach. The union will raise a stink but screw 'em. It's protects more players against injury than it hurts with fines and suspensions.

No one will ever prove that a bounty system exists but realistically it's being done with or without direct compensation and some teams and a handful of players seem to be more involved more often than others. When it starts costing them a big fine and several game checks maybe they'll think twice.