Thread: Just As Long As It's Not Here..................

Angelo actually screwed up and got enough good players, the packers need wannstedt

Originally Posted by soulman

I read what you wrote Dags and here it is;

Carimi has had pride to the point of near arrogance, to be completely honest with you. In a way, his overabundance of pride has been his undoing, and I think now that he has experienced total and complete failure at performing his job save for run blocking, he now has learned some semblance of humility. In fact, I can remember in his interviews leading up to the '11 NFL Draft where he said he thought he was the best offensive lineman in the draft, bar none, thinking,"Son, you better be able to back those words up because there are going to be defensive ends and defensive tackles looking to make you eat those words."

Where in that paragraph does it say one thing about what NFL Scouts or his fellow peers thought of him? Where? I'll tell you where. No.......where!

What it really says is what I've highlighted in red. You found him arrogant, not the NFL Scouts and not his fellow peers. Don't be projecting your feelings about him into others or tell me I misread you when I didn't.

That was all about what YOU think and my response was that I didn't see it that way even if you did. Here's what I wrote.

I don't really see the arrogance you see Dags. I see a kid whose been humbled to the point of having lost his confidence and that's not good. IMO that comment he made before the draft was made from a standpoint of confidence and not arrogance and now that confidence is all but gone and he needs it back.

So we disagree on many things starting with you not even knowing what you wrote but that's beside the point. We both agree that he'll be fine given some time to adjust to the pro game.

I may be old and my eyesight failing but it ain't that bad yet sonny and my grasp of the English language and reading comprehension skills are still OK. Alzheimer's is still out there trying to find me but I'm too quick for it so far.

Soul, you have a real problem with people who disagree with your perspective. Just because you are older than me and therefore more experienced at life doesn't give you the right to say or allude to otherwise, "Well, Dags doesn't know what he's talking about." I know what I'm talking about when I say that I read reports where NFL Scouts and other players said that they didn't particularly care for some of the comments that Carimi made about his abilities. These were reports that were made readily available back during the 2011 offseason, and I will not under any circumstances go back and hunt them down -- not because they don't exist, but because it would be a royal pain in the ass to hunt them down. I think it's YOUR emotions that are getting in the way here, not mine. I know I think he WAS arrogant, but then again, I also said that he's been humbled greatly by his failures at the right tackle position. I know for a fact that you had a heterosexual man crush on Carimi for months leading into the draft, and I think it was you (no, I know it was you) who had a virtual orgasm over Carimi when he got drafted in 2011 by Jerry Angelo. Ergo, there is a great difference between opinion and emotion. Get the two straight, because I'm not in anyway, shape, or form attached emotionally to the development of Gabe Carimi. I want him to succeed, yes, but I will not hinge my emotional faculties for any reason on any player.

Face it, soul -- I'm one person you're not going to be able walk all over when you decide that you disagree with me like you do so many others on here. I don't like being patronized by people like when you called me "sonny," and joking your way out of the situation simply won't work with me. Treat me with a little respect. I deserve at least that much.