Thread: BEARS @ Vikes

I know what you are saying, but I just can't see us losing to Arizona. If that happened, hell, that would just be unreal.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

I see 9-7 as the MOST LIKELY possibility. Since that means missing the playoffs (and I could care less about squeaking in since we would go nowhere but one-and-done anyway), I really would prefer to see an 8-8 finish for the longer term benefits. I'd rather have the higher draft position and a 1-7 collapse/playoff-miss to assure that shit actually gets done this offseason in dramatic fashion.

Like sweeping, modernizing changes to HC/OC positions.
Like an intense focus on rebuilding the OL.
Like cutting away dead weight players such as Davis & Hester for some new blood.
Like getting serious about producing an NFL quality offense.

The last thing I want to see is this team finish 10-6, make a meaningless wildcard appearance, and then that being used as a justification for "window dressing" changes only. That would be a typical stodgy Bears franchise response. You know, duct taping over a leak rather than replacing the plumbing. No thanks.

Be bold, Mr. Emery

Originally Posted by bearsinhouston

I know what you are saying, but I just can't see us losing to Arizona. If that happened, hell, that would just be unreal.

I live here and will be at the game...although with far less enthusiasm than I expected a month ago. You're probably right. AZ is the one team, NFC anyway, whose O and OL are even worse than ours. Their D is actually quite good but it's given up and is just playing out the schedule at this point.

The AZ game is the only one left I see us winning. But I really won't care after next week. 8-8 finish is fine by me for the reasons I mentioned previously. What a colossal waste of a 7-1 start.

Well, there were some that were saying that W or L were all that mattered, but that is short sighted. If you don't look at how you won or lost, how you played and who you played against, then you just surprised when you start losing. I think that is where some people are today. There was never anything to indicate that we would be able to beat the better teams other than sheer hope. Although you see a 7-1 start and you hope that means that the confidence and gelling of the team would start to take over. That never happened though.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

I live here and will be at the game...although with far less enthusiasm than I expected a month ago. You're probably right. AZ is the one team, NFC anyway, whose O and OL are even worse than ours. Their D is actually quite good but it's given up and is just playing out the schedule at this point.

The AZ game is the only one left I see us winning. But I really won't care after next week. 8-8 finish is fine by me for the reasons I mentioned previously. What a colossal waste of a 7-1 start.

Originally Posted by bearsinhouston

Well, there were some that were saying that W or L were all that mattered, but that is short sighted. If you don't look at how you won or lost, how you played and who you played against, then you just surprised when you start losing. I think that is where some people are today. There was never anything to indicate that we would be able to beat the better teams other than sheer hope. Although you see a 7-1 start and you hope that means that the confidence and gelling of the team would start to take over. That never happened though.

All true.

Opening day vs. Indy. Bad start. Sack, 3 & out, then a dumb pick 6 by Cutty. But the team rallied. Both sides of the ball. D picked off Luck 3 times. Cutler came back and threw for over 300 yards and 2 TDs. Bush pounded in 2 more on the ground. Well played all around after a rough 1st Q. Thought we finally had a good, balanced O to complement a solid D. Pretty soft schedule. Saw 12 wins minimum coming. Stupid of me to believe.

WTF happened?

Coaches are too willing to let someone play when their performance does not dictate it. That's what i think is enabling a climate of mediocrity. Hester does not beling out there after so many drops. Same can be said about Davis.

They can can badly and be out there the next week. Why? What message does that send. Only a few players are playing like their jobs are on the line. Marshall plays like that every week even though he is one of the last players they would take off the field. Also the coaches do not go with what has had success (Bush in the tough running games), and stay with strategies that just don't work (pass too much in the Vikings game). Then I think the players get beat down. I think it's time for a fresh attitude. Not only because of the lousy performance, I think that the climate that enables a winning attitude is not there. I am not convinced the QB should have as much strok as Cutler unless he is performing at a Peyton Manning level -- and let's face it, he's not. i think that breeds complacency.

The game would have been different if the bears played smarter in the opening plays. The 2 scores that happenned were inexcusable. The bears seem to have this ramping up as you go playing, you have to be game ready on the first kickoff. The bears did fine after the early ruckuss but could not muster up enough to overcome the scores. The bears should be a better team than this. Again, the secret is HOLDING THE BALL. Drive down the field and bang thru the line for the score and kill that clock. Stop trying for the fast score by throwing the ball. 85 bears did that time and again. 3rd down and a foot, and your smucker for that 1st down, so many times I saw that in the 85 bears. When your in a duke it out game like this you can't let the opposition score on some stupid tossing interception mistake. One play, one mistake, that was the game this game. Cutler, if you think you have an opening for a reception, hey, run it instead, you got the protection for the pass, your open, run it. Try some designed plays where the QB does the run (but looks like it might be something else to the opposition) We have to gear up for a rough and tumble Green Bay game and its gonna be nasty. Time to win ugly.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

I see 9-7 as the MOST LIKELY possibility. Since that means missing the playoffs (and I could care less about squeaking in since we would go nowhere but one-and-done anyway), I really would prefer to see an 8-8 finish for the longer term benefits. I'd rather have the higher draft position and a 1-7 collapse/playoff-miss to assure that shit actually gets done this offseason in dramatic fashion.

Like sweeping, modernizing changes to HC/OC positions.
Like an intense focus on rebuilding the OL.
Like cutting away dead weight players such as Davis & Hester for some new blood.
Like getting serious about producing an NFL quality offense.

The last thing I want to see is this team finish 10-6, make a meaningless wildcard appearance, and then that being used as a justification for "window dressing" changes only. That would be a typical stodgy Bears franchise response. You know, duct taping over a leak rather than replacing the plumbing. No thanks.

Be bold, Mr. Emery

No shit. It doesnt look good from here on out ... I'm not giving up but just being practibal.

We cant see JCUT even being alive if he takes more of this.

The OL has been ... WILL BE ... the problem that everyone has seen for the past few years unless somthing is done about it.

BTW ... saw TWO defensive players that we could have had play in the N.E. - Houston game.