Thread: How do we get the next franchise QB?

I don't know about you guys, but my fuse is pretty thin right now, with the way the season is going. I'm not upset with anyone here on the messageboard. I'm VERY upset over the situation we find the team in right now. It just seems like our situation is the result of a self-inflicted wound. The elephant in the room for years has been the worst oline in the NFL (ok, in fairness we did have the 31st rated oline two years ago.....so we weren't dead last that year). And when I read crap like worrying about re-signing Cutler, I snapped when I read the Cutler thing.

It has nothing to do with you Ric. It was the Miller comment.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

No one is saying that getting (drafting) a talented young "depth" QB on the roster to develop is a bad idea either, Ric. What we are saying is that is so far down the priority list for the near future that its hardly worth considering seriously right now.

We have 5 picks right now in the next two drafts' top 3 rounds. If 2-3 of them minimum (depending on what can be achieved in FA) aren't used on OL, something is really really wrong with Phil Emery's brain. With the other immediate needs and future replacements to think about--like LB, CB, TE, 4th WR--I don't see much room left to consider a QB prospect before early 2015.

I disagree, I think we have plenty of room to fill in a backup qb to mentor. I don't think CB or 4th WR are immediate needs and they both can be filled in with either signing practice squad guys or picked up in later rounds. Not to mention that a few of those will be filled up with a FA pickups.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

I agree completely. Cutler, flaws and all, is NOT the problem. Neither is the lack of a young QB "in the pipeline" even remotely a major issue at this point. You can rent a vet to be a serviceable QB2 year in and year out. And I'm quite confident that Emery will do that adequately, in other words, better than JA's genius choices of Caleb Hanie & Todd Collins.

Look, Cutler has been utterly screwed since arriving here by a revolving door of suckass shitbag OCs, OLs, and WRs (pre-Emery). The latter issue has been greatly remedied (still a need a decent TE than can actually catch & a speedy slot guy to develop as a #4 WR) but the first 2 problems haven't yet. Emery needs to focus on those first and keeping the defense stocked second the next 2 offseasons. Finding a new starting QB is about 22nd on the grocery list for the immediate future.

Spot on MP. Fix this, OL & a good OC & Cutler will excel. I know that sounds like alot but it can be done this off season.

Not to mention this, if we draft a backup qb and mentor him, and he comes in a few games and produces, we all of the sudden have some major trade bait. It's how many teams pick up extra draft picks.

Honestly, I don't care if it's a late round pick (ala Flynn), but we need to draft someone and sit them behind cutler. I'm a firm believer that it's a winning strategy and all this hype about needing a vet qb that can step in and play is just horseshit. And Cambell proved that and cost us too much money to do it.

Originally Posted by BearJim

Spot on MP. Fix this, OL & a good OC & Cutler will excel. I know that sounds like alot but it can be done this off season.

I agree, I don't think it will take that much to fix the oline. We don't need 5 probowlers, just one or two and some journeymen, then we need much better play designs (not this High school stuff we've seen this year) and we've got a better than average offense.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

JABF, I don't agree with getting rid of or replacing Cutler, but I fgured this was a great place to put Miller/Hub's thoughts. I'm not endorsing them; but I thought there was some merit when both were combined.


I've always been a proponent of getting young qb's in here. I was one of the few that thought what Washington did this last year was genious in getting RGIII, and Cousins as his backup. They are now set at qb and backup qb for the next 3-4 years minimum. And if Cousins continues to impress it won't be hard for them to get back that 4th round pick and much more. Unlike a vet qb, there is a good possibility that someone will want to trade for a quality young backup.

Every year we have several teams that are drooling over backup qb's. Look at how many backup qbs ended up starting after being groomed behind favre. Look at what was given for matt cassel. Greenbay screwed up by not giving flynn an extension and let him get to FA so they got nothing for him. It's a breeding ground for good draft picks while a vet backup is not. You and I were both against picking up cambell in lieu of drafting a qb to groom behind cutler.

While we all agree that Oline is a top priority, I think that we need to also start looking at what recipe works long term. I seriously think having a vet qb behind another vet qb hurts us more in the long run than it helps in the short term.